From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:58:46 +0900 Message-ID: <87ve0krbcp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com> <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> <20080607195544.GE1420@thyrsus.com> <20080607212655.GC28417@thyrsus.com> <484B112C.5080808@emf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212885998 23094 80.91.229.12 (8 Jun 2008 00:46:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 08 02:47:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K5940-0000rk-QJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:47:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35308 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K593D-0006QL-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5939-0006Q0-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:46:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5938-0006Pk-IP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:46:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55408 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5938-0006Ph-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:46:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:41786) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5932-0000IE-6l; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:46:16 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841E2801A; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:46:14 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BB501A25C3; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:58:46 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <484B112C.5080808@emf.net> X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under XEmacs 21.5.21 (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98651 Archived-At: Thomas Lord writes: > This is not to slag on scons but to suggest that if your efforts at > cultural reform make progress, it might be worth not simply leaping > on the shiniest tools du jour but, stepping back, considering what > is actually achievable, and thinking a bit about the goals. Nope. That's mission creep. Not Emacs's job, mon.