From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:29:26 +0900 Message-ID: <87ve03kx7d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej6rpqh0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhf1mxe.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <874p7n1jb9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wwzmg2j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214037006 13826 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 08:30:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 10:30:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9yUZ-0001P3-Ay for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:30:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9yTk-0004Wt-DU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:29:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9yTf-0004Uz-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9yTd-0004Sw-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42988 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9yTd-0004Sb-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:29:41 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:47261) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9yTS-0006zf-5C; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.109.31.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.109.31] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1K9yTP-0001OP-Pl; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:29:27 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8CD72F3A; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:29:26 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:11:35 +0300") Original-Lines: 24 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99594 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> It's fontconfig that does it, not Emacs. > > But Emacs calls it, doesn't it? So we could set up things for the > results to be consistent across LANG settings, if we decide that to be > TRT. I don't necessarily disagree with that, but the question is whether such an effort to "be consistent" would incur too much cost -- for instance, inconsistency with other modern apps, or ignoring user-specified global settings. I think that Stefan has a good point when he says we should rely on existing mechanisms to the extent that they work acceptably. I'd like to know what e.g., Gnome apps do in this case, but I'm not sure how to get Gnome to ignore my settings and use its defaults (even if I change HOME, still seems to use my settings). -Miles -- Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable.