From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:10:51 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87vdeljbtw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <27349166.post@talk.nabble.com> <83bpge50k5.fsf@gnu.org> <87vdem8gly.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87k4v1xm4l.fsf@gmail.com> <83sk9prvnd.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4v1vz5f.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264771096 15051 80.91.229.12 (29 Jan 2010 13:18:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:18:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 29 14:18:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Naqjl-0001Ct-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:18:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Naqjk-0002rj-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Naqgp-0001q9-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Naqgl-0001ll-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49667 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Naqgl-0001lg-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:15:07 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40028) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Naqgl-00049s-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:15:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Naqgj-0007TJ-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:15:05 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2a49.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.42.73]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:15:05 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2a49.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:15:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2a49.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WY719OCAcfMNgs4v/T6ivjgxmVY= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120652 Archived-At: Paul R writes: > Hi Eli, > >>> As many emacs youngsters, I feel that emacs really uses too much >>> home-made code. Surprisingly, Emacs does not benefit that much from >>> the free software ecosystem. > > Eli> That's a pretty general assessment. Any data points other than the > Eli> display engine? > > Emacs Lisp and all the librairies that emacs hackers had to implement on > top of it, IOW the 'emacs lisp standard library'. > > Since 80ies, many languages appeared, and many of them meet very well > the requirements to extend a text editor. And because they are > general-purpose language, they do much more. So where are all those powerful extensible text editors? > Designing a language, implementing it, maintaining it, providing a > large and up to date standard library, is a project on its > own. Scheme, Ruby or Python come to mind. The latters, at least, come > with extensive support to parsing, file operations, networking and so > on. So where are all those powerful extensible text editors? -- David Kastrup