From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:01:50 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87vdcxu72p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83pr371rl2.fsf@gnu.org> <873a03pmgn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20100314093329.GA1362@muc.de> <87pr37jh99.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268654544 28908 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2010 12:02:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:02:24 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 15 13:02:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr8zz-00006N-Sk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:02:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr8zz-0005TR-CJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr8zv-0005TM-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41852 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr8zt-0005T7-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr8zq-0002U1-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:43980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr8zq-0002Ts-6T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr8zo-0008UX-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:02:08 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2408.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.36.8]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:02:08 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2408.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:02:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2408.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3nw/Sd+3J1ZnozsDCx952Rpx3Nw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121996 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> It might help to reduce its size. I use --without-toolkit-scrollbars >> myself and additionally >> (setq-default scroll-bar-width 15) > > 15 is reduced? I've had it set to 6 for so long that I can't imagine > what "more than 15" could fee like, It has been smaller at one time for me, but screen resolutions have increased. Maybe it would make sense for such resources to be specifiable as a float and have it measured as a multiple of the standard font's character pitch rather than an absolute number of pixels. I want to be able to hit the scrollbar without squinting somewhat reliably, and 0.8 characters are more or less what makes that convenient for me. -- David Kastrup