From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:36:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcvxeefy.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3iprxiol7.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:43:48 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> But maybe the above will work? It seems to me it would work for
>> `nnimap-credentials' as well, which perhaps argues that it should be
>> in the auth-source API.
LMI> It's possible. The SMTP situation is slightly special, though. For
LMI> IMAP, we know that we want credentials. For SMTP, we don't know, so we
LMI> first see if there are any there, and only if there are, we want to
LMI> :create the possibly missing `secret'.
LMI> I think doing that special-casing in smtpmail.el instead of trying to
LMI> shove it down into the auth-source functions is slightly cleaner.
LMI> Unless some new protocols appear that have the same requirements as
LMI> SMTP.
OK. So really the case is "possibly anonymous" versus "definitely
authenticated" services. NNTP is also like that and IMAP itself can
function unauthenticated if so configured. IRC can be used anonymously
or not. So maybe `auth-source-search' should be smart enough to
accomodate the two cases through a common API.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 21:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-23 18:54 Emacs RPC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 3:21 ` T.V. Raman
2011-04-24 20:04 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 20:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 17:55 ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-01 18:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 2:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 21:25 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-02 22:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 20:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 17:56 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 17:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-24 18:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 19:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25 1:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 1:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 2:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 12:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 12:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:00 ` Emacs RPC security (was: Emacs RPC) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 17:35 ` Emacs RPC security Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 19:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-01 18:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:19 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el (was: Emacs RPC security) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 15:20 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el James Cloos
2011-05-02 18:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 18:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 19:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 23:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 0:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 22:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04 1:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:07 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 18:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:54 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 19:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 23:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 7:11 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-31 10:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 18:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 19:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-01 0:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 2:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 12:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 13:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 15:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 8:57 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-02 11:45 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 12:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 14:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:03 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 15:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 21:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 15:11 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-26 10:09 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:43 ` GPGME (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 21:47 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-28 11:56 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 20:36 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 8:07 ` secure plist store Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 8:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29 9:05 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:30 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:39 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:59 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:31 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 23:10 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 7:43 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:42 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 14:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 22:18 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 22:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-01 2:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-03 2:13 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 11:09 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:15 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 17:21 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:41 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:46 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:09 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:44 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-03 21:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 1:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-03 21:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-09 18:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-09 21:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:05 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 21:47 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 22:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 16:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 21:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-16 3:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 8:32 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-16 13:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 20:28 ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-16 21:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-17 1:03 ` should docstrings include all defcustom options? (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17 7:17 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 9:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17 9:53 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 10:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 19:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 19:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 20:19 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 21:01 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:07 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:25 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:01 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-22 8:27 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 8:30 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 8:52 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 9:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:34 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 9:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 17:45 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 18:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23 8:01 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 15:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:36 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-06-22 2:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:50 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 17:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 19:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-22 20:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:16 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 15:06 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Stefan Monnier
2011-06-09 17:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-10 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 15:20 ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 15:25 ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 15:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04 1:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-08 20:59 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 10:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:00 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:30 ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs (was: client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:46 ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs David Engster
2011-05-09 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-11 21:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 9:37 ` Emacs RPC security Julien Danjou
2011-05-02 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-02 19:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 0:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 0:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 6:24 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-05-03 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 0:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 12:13 ` Emacs RPC Sebastian Rose
2011-04-26 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
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