From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: State of the CEDET merge Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:01:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87vcus3slm.fsf@engster.org> References: <877hc7lzcc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8762rq7w7h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871v2en9n1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871v2eyece.fsf_-_@engster.org> <87r5ad91dm.fsf@ginnungagap.bsc.es> <87zkp1solk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wrk54pzp.fsf@ginnungagap.bsc.es> <87tyf7aw9b.fsf@engster.org> <871uxgyu0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311501767 15886 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2011 10:02:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:02:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 24 12:02:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvWF-0007ZV-E3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:02:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvWE-0002LA-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvWC-0002Ku-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvWA-0003pf-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from v3-1008.vxen.de ([79.140.41.8]:34481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvWA-0003oq-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:02:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From; bh=0cdw4+PVfUrr/ISS9CEbb1bxsg3zZLIHlVHcT0uxPj4=; b=PBt6x62oG9/FrrgaaHyXXLTpoY5gUdWCVQR3ffLMDejxfPov3L9GyI5DXBu5/EB6JeADXBSp8QaxcX0Po1JIYF4RIfIviUQCXxzTEbQdCOGh2M5imlhBxbyEn0ptbgKL; Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-184-194.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.184.194] helo=spaten) by v3-1008.vxen.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QkvW2-0002fC-2P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:02:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871uxgyu0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:14:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 79.140.41.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142247 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > David Engster writes: >> Llu=EDs writes: >>> In fact, I'm only tracking changes introduced in Emacs. But not those >>> introduced after my last merge for a specific file (these will have to >>> be manually re-checked). >>> >>> Changes in the cedet trunk should be automatically merged when I merge >>> the branch. >> >> I must admit I don't fully understand the 'file-rename' branch, >> especially at what point you would call this branch "finished". Could >> you (very roughly) outline how you plan to merge the different versions >> in the end? Since both versions differ substantially, I guess you would >> need some kind of diff-file which contains the (wanted) differences >> between the two versions, like the Gnus people use? >> >>> All this, added with my lack of elisp skill, knowledge on cedet >>> internals and knowledge on what has been changed and why, make the task >>> a tough one. >> >> It would help if you could name some concrete tasks which have to be >> done next. I've seen the 'open_issues' file, but I don't really >> understand those items listed there. Please don't take these questions >> the wrong way; I very much appreciate your work you've already done on >> the merge and the bzr transition. > > So, a number of months have passed, and feature freezes are around the > corner or done. Does it mean that we are finally planning to ship > Emacs-24 with unmaintainable binary content without source code, the > preferred form of modification? Because that is what the compiled CEDET > parsers are. The grammars are notably absent, and so are the parser > generators (bovinator, wisent and something else) and their > documentation. We are working on it in the mentioned CEDET file-rename branch. We didn't make the Emacs24 freeze, but thanks for reminding us. -David