From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New build process?
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:24:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcuo4woy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E93EA1CB-E480-4A43-B7FF-C0BB9424683E@gmail.com
David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 2:47 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't seem to be able to find instructions about this, and I haven't
>>> found anything relevant and recent in the emacs-devel archive. Help,
>>> please!
>>
>> INSTALL.BZR
>
> Suggest changing the name of this file. Not everybody gets the source
> code via Bazaar. When these inconvenient changes happened, I got
> caught out like Alan Mackenzie, since I wouldn't think of reading this
> file.
>
> Better yet, include a configure script that calls autogen.sh and then
> runs itself. If people consider this an inconvenience w.r.t. the
> version control tool, then perhaps autogen.sh could generate
> configure.local instead.
>
> As others have said here, people expect to be able to do ./configure;
> make install.
"people" get a tarball, and then this works perfectly fine and is
usually described in INSTALL. When working from a version control
system, it is the rule rather than the exception that generated files
_including_ ./configure are _not_ checked into the version control
system, and that there is a separate INSTALL.CVS file or similar. The
"usual way" for installing from a tarball is "./configure && make
install", and the "usual way" for installing from a version control
system checkout is "./autogen.sh && ./configure && make install".
It is an unreasonable expectation that ./configure is checked into the
version control system if it is a generated file and not source code.
It has been this way for a long time in the Emacs source tree, and has
been a source for trouble for a long time. And obviously it has lead to
bad expectations as well.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-26 20:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-26 18:42 New build process? Alan Mackenzie
2011-07-26 18:47 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-26 20:00 ` David Reitter
2011-07-26 20:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-27 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 3:40 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 5:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-27 7:58 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 8:25 ` Peter Münster
2011-07-27 8:48 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 9:43 ` Peter Münster
2011-07-27 8:51 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-27 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-27 13:11 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 13:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-27 13:56 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28 12:37 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-07-28 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-29 12:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-07-27 14:58 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 16:14 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-27 20:27 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-28 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-28 16:45 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 7:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-27 8:02 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 8:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-27 8:13 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 8:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-27 8:31 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-27 8:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 9:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-27 9:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 9:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-26 20:24 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2011-07-26 22:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-07-27 12:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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