From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.auctex.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [AUCTeX-devel] [ELPA-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/elpa r312: Update AUCTeX ELPA package to the new 11.87 release. 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[147.96.12.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm19296783wix.6.2012.12.05.06.39.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:39:06 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) X-Hashcash: 1:20:121205:emacs-devel@gnu.org::xqHpOMG1tahw2wVM:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001wNj X-Hashcash: 1:20:121205:auctex-devel@gnu.org::K6hpJ8phSm4CGOME:000000000000000000000000000000000000000001JQ9 X-Hashcash: 1:20:121205:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::r7f04/ILWoudeN9b:000000000000000000000000000000000000029wk X-Hashcash: 1:20:121205:dak@gnu.org::RvKTEGJ7rHE7x9Db:0000003lHh In-Reply-To: <87ip8gd1al.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:24:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) XEmacs/21.5-b32 (linux) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:39:17 -0500 (EST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:39:13 -0500 (EST) X-Greylist: Delayed for 101:06:29 by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [207.172.156.133]); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:39:13 -0500 (EST) X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports and discussion of XEmacs development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:37006 gmane.emacs.auctex.devel:2786 gmane.emacs.devel:155293 Archived-At: >> On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:24:50 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Tassilo Horn writes: [snip] > Now XEmacs will only distribute package files that have been assembled > by XEmacs tools in the XEmacs package tree. This is correct. I wish it were different, that there existed a debian-like-alien tool which allowed to convert one package into another one, like deb-->rpm > So the XEmacs packages that AUCTeX provides will work > fine, but you'll have to find, download and install > them manually instead of relying on the XEmacs > packaging system. You can unpack it in ~/.xemacs/packages or in prefix/xemacs/site-packages > What will be provided in the XEmacs package > repositories consequently is something massaged > manually to the necessary layout, commonly with > mistakes and several years behind. Well if their package manager were faster it should be a question of days not years :'( [snip] > The XEmacs compatibility code in the Lisp files itself is peanuts in > comparison. No point in removing that as far as I can see. However, > preview-latex has a somewhat more extensive compatibility setup. It > would be arguable not to place the prv-xemacs.el files in the ELPA > packaging at least. That is your call to make. > Removing it from the source distribution would be > seriously unfair since it is technically complex enough that starting it > from scratch would be quite hard: that would be several man-months at > least from an experienced XEmacs programmer, and there are none as far > as I can see interested in AUCTeX. Yes, please, do *not* remove it, that would be real nightmare for Xemacs users. Uwe Brauer