From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:17:02 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: <87vcb4zw41.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9t6a435.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87d2y1glnt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87hanbu3ly.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <871ueftmc7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fw2pien3.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357845604 1346 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2013 19:20:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:20:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 20:20:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfo-0004tl-Ec for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:20:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40145 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfX-0006Rc-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59088) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfS-0006RO-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:20:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfQ-0006Ku-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:19:58 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfQ-0006Kj-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:19:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNfY-0004jq-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:20:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 74.113.160.197 ([74.113.160.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:20:04 +0100 Original-Received: from sds by 74.113.160.197 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:20:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.113.160.197 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZLyzT3EdGz1c1A5lWfBi5QNPvVM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156195 Archived-At: > * Chong Yidong [2012-12-29 13:57:52 +0800]: > > Juri Linkov writes: > >> It is still too bad that when the frame is maximized, enabling and >> disabling fullscreen doesn't restore its maximized state. >> >> The problem is that we have only one frame parameter `fullscreen' >> for both frame states `maximized' and `fullscreen'. >> >> So for proper behavior like in other applications we need to remember >> the previous `maximized' state and restore it afterwards >> like `toggle-frame-fullscreen' does in the following patch: > > This patch looks good, thanks. Yuk. Now when my frame is maximized and I hit f11, it is fullscreen, and when I hit f11 again, it "normal" (not maximized). Since M-f10 is not available to Emacs by default, I cannot get back my maximized behavior with the keyboard. I don't see how this is an improvement. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://mideasttruth.com http://honestreporting.com http://iris.org.il http://thereligionofpeace.com http://palestinefacts.org WinWord 6.0 UNinstall: Not enough disk space to uninstall WinWord