From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: superword-mode Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:20 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87vc8aownf.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87wqt0xqiy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sj3ny4ca.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehf7zid3.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> <87obeby2ph.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878v5fxzjg.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871ub7xn7e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r4j2v7t8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjxqt21y.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87zjxnqgec.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87txnuqqvb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <5155BFFC.10609@online.de> <87ppyiqhqu.fsf@lifelogs.com> <5155D410.8030904@online.de> <87li96qdpc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <5155E264.3080807@online.de> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364583892 11692 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 19:04:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:04:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 29 20:05:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebx-0006EE-La for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:05:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48212 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebZ-0004PG-E3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebV-0004Oq-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebT-0002TH-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebS-0002RZ-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULebf-0005kJ-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:04:55 +0100 Original-Received: from pool-72-93-31-86.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.31.86]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:04:55 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by pool-72-93-31-86.bstnma.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:04:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-93-31-86.bstnma.east.verizon.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BxGSSlu5Pz/NpZ9j0UmC1AQKPM0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158441 Archived-At: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:50:12 +0100 Andreas Röhler wrote: AR> Am 29.03.2013 19:10, schrieb Ted Zlatanov: >> So you're saying that `superword-mode' should simply add "_" to the word >> syntax? AR> Yes. To be switched on/off with the mode. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose? (btw, your e-mail client is mangling my plain text, I'm not sure what happened) I understand your point, and perhaps it's OK in `superword-mode' because we can make that modification implicit in choosing to use that mode. It was not OK in `cfengine-mode', I quote the last word in that exchange: TZZ> Or are you saying users don't expect _ to be part of a TZZ> word and it's unconventional to make it so? SM> Exactly. Many users actually like _ to be part of a word, but these SM> are user-preferences (and we should indeed define a SM> words-are-symbols-mode for those users since what they really want SM> is for M-f, M-t, M-DEL to move by symbols rather than by words). `cfengine-mode' works properly now so it's not under discussion, but I mention it for context. So I'd be OK with whatever direction is chosen by the Emacs maintainers. I can change `superword-mode' to DTRT; I have no strong personal preference either way. Also, I don't think you need to CC Stefan directly, he reads this list. (I personally prefer to get no CC off-list, unless you want to be sure I won't miss the beginning of a thread, and I've set my headers accordingly. This is not to be anti-social but simply because I use GMane and often leave e-mail unseen for weeks and months.) Ted