Re: [elpa] 01/01: [xpm int] Use cl-* names; drop ‘cl’ requirement.

Re: [elpa] 01/01: [xpm int] Use cl-* names; drop ‘cl’ requirement.

[Stefan Monnier]

> -                              (- p span) p (list* 'intangible t
> -                                                  more)))))
> +                              (- p span) p (cl-list*
> +                                            'intangible t
> +                                            more)))))

`intangible' is a bad property which should die.
Can you explain what you need it for?


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] 01/01: [xpm int] Use cl-* names; drop ‘cl’ requirement.

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
() Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:16:42 -0400

   `intangible' is a bad property which should die.
   Can you explain what you need it for?

Sure.  In a fit of rabid laziness, i decided to use
the output of the ‘showboard’ command, e.g.:

 = 
    A B C D E F G H J K L M N
 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13
 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12
 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11
 10 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 10
  9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
  8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
  7 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 7
  6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
  5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5     WHITE (O) has captured 0 stones
  4 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 4     BLACK (X) has captured 0 stones
  3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
  2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
  1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
    A B C D E F G H J K L M N

directly and exercize the (then-newish) text-property
and overlay features w/ this raw text, rather than the
traditional pure-constructive approach (which is only
lame outside of Emacs, IMHO).  The ‘intangible’ property
is placed on the "whitespace" columns between A, B, etc
such that cursor motion never stops on those positions.

Is there a better way to achieve this nowadays?

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Re: [elpa] 01/01: [xpm int] Use cl-* names; drop ‘cl’ requirement.

[Stefan Monnier]

> lame outside of Emacs, IMHO).  The ‘intangible’ property
> is placed on the "whitespace" columns between A, B, etc
> such that cursor motion never stops on those positions.
> Is there a better way to achieve this nowadays?

You might want to check revision 115224 where I changed gomoku.el to
avoid `intangible' properties.

You'll see there's no special support for it, so it's no simpler than
using `intangible' properties.  But `intangible' properties operate at
a very low-level so they tend to cause surprising problems because they
affect a lot more code than intended.


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] 01/01: [xpm int] Use cl-* names; drop ‘cl’ requirement.

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
() Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0400

   You might want to check revision 115224 where I changed
   gomoku.el to avoid `intangible' properties.

   You'll see there's no special support for it, so it's no
   simpler than using `intangible' properties.

   But `intangible' properties operate at a very low-level
   so they tend to cause surprising problems because they
   affect a lot more code than intended.

Thanks for the tip.  I will explore dropping use of
‘intangible’ in gnugo.el (et al) in the future.

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