From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw string literals in Emacs lisp. Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:14:08 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87vbqbqmn3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <878ungor1v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ijng08.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tt7lzro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53D567FD.4030708@porkrind.org> <87r412iobp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <53D9586F.6020705@porkrind.org> <87bns6in3g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <20140802084744.GA3541@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406970887 23359 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2014 09:14:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:14:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 02 11:14:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOg-0006Wb-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:14:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOg-0006pi-33 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOX-0006pc-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOR-0006pj-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:14:29 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOR-0006pe-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XDVOQ-00067d-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:14:22 +0200 Original-Received: from pd9568328.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.86.131.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:14:22 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by pd9568328.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:14:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9568328.dip0.t-ipconnect.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LpSuYrWsxe1MMTcE9n2HbGJdBx4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173373 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > Hello, Ted. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 04:54:43PM -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > >> ....., I just want a simple syntax for literal data :) > >> How about using a Unicode character as the marker? (prepares for stoning) > > OK, it's taken time, and nobody else looks like they're about to do it, > so I will cast the first stone. > > NO, NO, NO, NO! The only Unicode characters to be used in Emacs are > those that are also ASCII characters, with a tiny number of essential > exceptions (for example, the non-European characters in the sentence-end > regexp, and, of course, people's names in comments). > > A Non-ASCII character is difficult to type for most people. Not all > setups can display it. Adopting such a character would mean a lot of > work for a lot of people. > > And using such characters as delimiters would introduce yet one more > incompatibility with XEmacs which, Stephen informs us, uses #r"..." for > raw strings. Why not just adapt that convention? Easy to type, easy to > read, easy to parse. Easy to parse? r#"?\" is a complete string. How do you parse it backwards? -- David Kastrup