From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:18:24 +0000 Message-ID: <87vbl3z5u7.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <549806FB.1030008@swipnet.se> <98E0792C-72EA-4A59-BB3C-871C7EB3BE80@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419286734 25801 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2014 22:18:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FUTF-8=3FQ=3FJan=5FDj=3DC3=3DA4rv=3F=3D?= , "Richard M. Stallman" , Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 23:18:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3BJO-0001It-6o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:18:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3BJN-0004du-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:18:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3BJC-0004c5-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:18:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3BJ4-00057p-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:18:34 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:44822 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3BJ4-00057b-Ej; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:18:26 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 40B34AC0052; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:39:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3B3C608A5; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:18:24 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:35:55 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180523 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > Sorry, my bad. jQuery is included. So it is something else. > > (But, Nic, why use jQuery on a HTML5 page?) There are still things that jquery makes easier than html5, for example ajax. And there are still lots of html5 things that absolutely aren't standardized. And evergreen browsers are great but it actually increases the amount of variance in the APIs. For a "production" release of something webapp-y I often look elsewhere than jquery. But this was a hack it together and throw it around type affair and the ajax alone makes it worth while. There's almost nothing in the gnudoc app that couldn't easily be replaced with another lib or just a small shim over what we know are compatability issues. Nic