From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:59:03 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87vbbgtzc2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <2a7b9134-af2a-462d-af6c-d02bad60bbe8@default> <834mjecdy7.fsf@gnu.org> <38061f42-eaf1-47c6-b74d-f676ac952b18@default> <83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org> <21998.29683.916211.867479@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <9A972800-D8F0-4DA8-877E-07D5BDC2E1F9@gmail.com> <87oahd11i9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8cf269bc-69d8-4752-8506-de8d992512e1@default> <4f3b1db3-d3d2-480f-8662-fbf7c74aa67f@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442007702 11887 80.91.229.3 (11 Sep 2015 21:41:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 21:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Richard Stallman To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 23:41:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaW4Z-00081Q-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:41:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58647 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaW4Y-0000Md-Cw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53271) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaW4K-0000MH-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaW4I-0000rU-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:60396 helo=homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaW4I-0000r3-J4; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093F02B206A; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m83-180-11-145.cust.tele2.ee [83.180.11.145]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4249E2B2065; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:33:42 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189845 Archived-At: > That is, after you figure out that Emacs has turned the tables on > you (and there is no signal that it has - no message telling you > that it is now searching case-sensitively), For the automatic toggling of case-sensitivity we could display the same message as displayed for manual toggling with =E2=80=98M-s c=E2=80=99. > IOW, the automatic downcasing DWIM is used only when you use `C-M-y' > (or `C-w') to yank some text at point into the search string. What > was said about automatic downcasing is not true for pasting in > general. Which points to another possibility of use confusion > (inconsistency). No, pasting is broken too: try to paste the upper case =E2=80=9CA=E2=80=9D= with =E2=80=98C-s C-y=E2=80=99 (isearch-yank-kill) - it's irrecoverably converted to lower = case.