From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 644d31a 2/2: Replace the usage of an obsolete function in auth-source.el Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:41:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb9ftqgz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20151011210306.16935.15935@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87a8qs2oy8.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446808116 3158 80.91.229.3 (6 Nov 2015 11:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 06 12:08:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuese-0000d3-Nu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:08:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37948 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuesd-0007h7-SI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:08:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39543) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuesa-0007gu-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuesZ-0008Ju-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:08:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuesZ-0008Ji-0Z; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55658 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuesY-0004eN-8W; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3BA86DF978; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:41:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:22:22 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193402 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 15:03:59 -0500, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> Maybe drop Gnus support for Emacs 23.x and old XEmacs too? The most current stable XEmacs version is 21.4.22 (released 2009), roughly corresponding to Emacs 21.1 if I remember correctly. So there is not much of a point in thinking about Emacs 23.x as long as XEmacs is in the equation. >> I think we've had too many of these annoyances over the years. > > Although the problem isn't due to those Emacsen's oldness as for > particularly this thread, making Gnus drop old Emacsen is a good > idea. Probably dropping Emacs 23 won't trouble many users. But > what is old XEmacs to be? In some sense, all XEmacsen is old. ;-) Every XEmacs developer will tell you that you are crazy to use XEmacs=A021.4, but since it is the official stable version, it is what will be packaged by default with standard distributions. I am not in a position to prescribe to Gnus developers how they are maintaining their software. Maybe Gnus stopping to support XEmacs=A021.4 is the kick in the behind that XEmacs needs for preparing a new "stable" release rather than face the prospect of having to backport or freeze Gnus. But I don't know how receptive to kicks that behind might be right now. For most active users, XEmacs=A021.4 does not appear to be more than a practical joke. --=20 David Kastrup