From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA policy Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:26:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb9cbb5f.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <563ABD66.6070700@yandex.ru> <563AC64E.9060105@yandex.ru> <87twp0d2xp.fsf@md5i.com> <563B5E82.8070003@yandex.ru> <83mvuoo1pl.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447007228 28027 80.91.229.3 (8 Nov 2015 18:27:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 18:27:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 08 19:26:58 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUg6-0005TS-A6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:26:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48449 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUg5-0003li-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:26:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUfq-0003lQ-UF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:26:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUfn-000168-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:26:42 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUfn-000161-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:26:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvUfl-0005AD-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:26:37 +0100 Original-Received: from 157.red-81-44-103.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.44.103.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:26:37 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 157.red-81-44-103.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:26:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.red-81-44-103.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yemp9Y9KNGTvdq3xaHW0MNXjOOk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193635 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> If that's the case, it changes my thoughts on what needs to be in core, and >> what should be in ELPA. Until now I was thinking ELPA required Internet >> access; but if there are parts of ELPA that "come in the box", then I'd like >> to see more packages there. > > ELPA requires Internet access if you are building from the repository. > > My greatest fears are that packages that move from core to ELPA will > get much less attention from the core maintenance team, which will > eventually degrade their quality. Org-mode, for instance, gets regular bug fix releases on GNU ELPA while it stagnates on core. I would venture that the contribution from the "core maintenance team" to org-mode amounts to a negative effect, causing more hassle than it saves. For projects with their own development team and VCS repository, having the project copied into the Emacs core VCS makes no sense, moreover when they have to support multiple Emacs releases.