From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nikolaus Rath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lldb support Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:46:50 -0800 Message-ID: <87vavulj2d.fsf@vostro.rath.org> References: <20161107150552.20e98985@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161107220815.606cd583@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <6c239d49-a92c-1495-7121-4808295a4fc2@dancol.org> <735f8965-609a-d0c2-82bc-19a2393186b6@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478839697 20972 195.159.176.226 (11 Nov 2016 04:48:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:48:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 05:48:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c53kZ-0000gO-Kr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:47:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c53kb-0000by-U3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:47:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c53jw-0000bQ-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:47:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c53jt-0004pG-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:47:00 -0500 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:34958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c53jt-0004og-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:46:57 -0500 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4E2213DD for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:46:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:46:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=eSkz4A9/mbe2co/fufnr7iRSbGI=; b=OW5h1/UZ5i7b65JFyTXt JUvYXEBWAfwV7DsgqOJHpiopwt14H9VN8oECRRC/4RdI9LoZ5i18CQKXIiiCxUh2 CZyssnY5JcnAf7Ys2RZvuNnmzWF5QIU+okytSubzZM4iOXqKhNmqVk0hXjpRgDVO mC5RM6b79XsZuYBMurbV2Zs= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: CHFSVM0pfecy5qf3hZIY8F0n8HUimF1IhRKoMj+gb6um 1478839611 Original-Received: from ebox.rath.org (ebox.rath.org [45.79.69.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 666D224421 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:46:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from vostro.rath.org (vostro [192.168.12.4]) by ebox.rath.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 985D82AE for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by vostro.rath.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5306F1022A2; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:46:50 -0800 (PST) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:26:18 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209337 Archived-At: On Nov 10 2016, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > Why would we want to support it > > > rather than saying, "We support GDB -- use that."? > > > All the usual reasons people prefer tool A over tool B: compatibility= =20 > > with a specific environment, personal customizations, familiarity, an= d=20 > > personal preference. LLDB is free software. We should support it. > > Your argument disregards the important fact that LLDB is part > of a project that aims to replace many important GNU packages, > and its success is the GNU Project's loss. > > I think that that is not important to you, but it is very > important for the GNU Project. Doesn't the same apply to the Linux kernel, whose success is the GNU (Hurd) Project's loss? Yet Emacs seems to support Linux even better than it supports Hurd. (Just curious). Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB