From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mike Gerwitz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: official Emacs Docker image Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:11:31 -0500 Message-ID: <87vasqbqfw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k29gsgam.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k29cmq1u.fsf@elephly.net> <8737g0qw7z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vasvnvty.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bmumrkzn.fsf@flea> <87tw8cr7v0.fsf@flea> <87wpd7rc70.fsf@xsteve.at> <8760krqtf9.fsf@flea> <87shnuq1z2.fsf@flea> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486177990 8361 195.159.176.226 (4 Feb 2017 03:13:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 03:13:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 04 04:13:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqmf-0001uJ-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:13:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqml-0000sW-9M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:13:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqlv-0000p6-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:12:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqlu-0003Vx-7T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:12:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqlu-0003Vt-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:12:18 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56087 helo=mikegerwitz-pc.gerwitz.local) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cZqlt-0002hN-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:12:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87shnuq1z2.fsf@flea> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:38:41 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211951 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 18:38:41 -0500, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Your implicit assumption here is that if any part of a service involves > nonfree software (in this case, Docker Hub account registration and > maintenance), then using any other part of the service (in this case, > Docker Hub as an image repository) is against this purpose. If using X involves temporarily setting aside freedom, then that harms your freedom, but that's your choice. But if you then ask others to use X, and therefore temporarily set aside their freedoms, that is a different situation entirely. Further, complacency in that action from a large enough group will cement it; we need people to speak out against those types of things so that they stop happening. If there is an alternative means to register with Docker Hub, then perhaps it wouldn't be a barrier, because we wouldn't have to ask others to temporarily surrender their freedoms. For example, if Docker Hub offered a register@hub.docker.com e-mail address where someone manually registered an account on your behalf to circumvent the issue, then it wouldn't be a problem for as long as that e-mail service remained available to others. If someone developed a free replacement for their proprietary JS that allowed for registration, it wouldn't be an issue for as long as that script works. =2D-=20 Mike Gerwitz Free Software Hacker+Activist | GNU Maintainer & Volunteer GPG: D6E9 B930 028A 6C38 F43B 2388 FEF6 3574 5E6F 6D05 Old: 2217 5B02 E626 BC98 D7C0 C2E5 F22B B815 8EE3 0EAB https://mikegerwitz.com --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYlUZkAAoJEIyRe39dxRuiVAAQALXXyaDDEEY+WYjr5zs5v1aS MEGqcnsXC4r2RWyO+pGTm+D7Nue13w6ywFzpquhhnVFSXaQwtxMv9LtYsmbB1sNg pbMyu2JKKRnIVkJOA7rB2Ssjn3iLIJU63TAGDM+hxyukm3bvLNtPaxF2QR/pSNrM yUPN+UXu5bxHx5qMaNOMuGOwuz6wmFGMCSVNlxV4xk6fW2M9cuNGleAVUKNIxgBD nxJwPpTUH9FApxQp+yN611d6BDNJZEq15Ac/SuT+0+sVhX1ise7RpVAzYEA4ySaC +xllX+fUns0Ysv5IJMHL7izhIHu02aBI0llqSYtPsvAnhXlYdObZ1B3WbsBNBkZg 2sjIAiiGi8Vv+2pTGAqfRmIl+3IRt3e8CxvOSXrPlZ2ozRuQOQ9kG9PHyi05O+iF upJgZ34sopmxGPeMBvLu/k7JgamlpQkMBdsZBGoA68fLihyfZrk0op/3G+SlnT0A 9hMkToEM+dQo6bkwB7Qz9bgXuGTHuxWCQVMisG3eLnst+unTGJapUCMkvdgAWpaF FK1NocXeui7tOYieWEKankzCaR945bSDx8N7+56SF2RIsknoGlAEU73crMqWHD0R Wn7mmySFzncAcnKU0QxpWA6HH4hYz1AQUBIvAmFW7y1hyJ/a5k+niEfV33ojZv4H P5CQOaSc6W4Qaqr0xXDC =ael2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--