From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] timer-list -> list-timers? Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:29:55 -0400 Message-ID: <87vakdhul8.fsf@yale.edu> References: <87zi9u1xx7.fsf@udel.edu> <83vakik2ad.fsf@gnu.org> <874ls21ngq.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87poale8vj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d16ljqec.fsf@yale.edu> <83a81pf9ge.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505946659 26204 195.159.176.226 (20 Sep 2017 22:30:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 22:30:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 00:30:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dunWA-0006VJ-EZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 00:30:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dunWH-0002jK-RA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dunVU-0002j2-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:30:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dunVQ-0005f4-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:30:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=50829 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dunVP-0005Zm-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dunVE-0003Yf-D0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 00:29:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:hGurViZeQfMo4DGELyxJ/Xbs7U8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218610 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) >> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:17:31 -0400 Ted Zlatanov writes: >> > That kind of bugs me about `M-x list-packages' etc. (there's >> > a whole bunch of them, like `list-holidays' and so on). Is >> > there any rule about when to make an exception to the >> > `-function' naming convention? If not, should there >> > be one? >> I agree. These functions that don't follow the package naming >> convention are always hard to find. > > Doesn't "M-x apropos" help? Sure. But many times one does not know exactly what to look for. For example if I am getting familiar with a package I might want to see the name of all functions or variables in that package. For that I can use describe-function or describe-variable with -TAB. Therefore, having at least aliases, as Tom suggested, would be useful. The `-' naming convention also plays nicely with other things like `custom-unlispify-remove-prefixes', for example. And it is recommended in (info "(elisp) Coding Conventions"). So, I also have the same question as Ted: when is there a good reason to not follow the `-' naming convention? Best, -- Jorge.