From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: To Tramp or not to Tramp (was: What's the right way to detect libxml2?) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:19:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87vaj3g0el.fsf_-_@gmx.de> References: <7f80cde1944261b7ee29020ff953f14c.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508916017 1657 195.159.176.226 (25 Oct 2017 07:20:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:20:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: Andy Moreton , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 25 09:20:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7Fyt-0006n8-V3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7Fyy-0002L2-4Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42267) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7FyG-0002Km-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:19:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7FyF-0006dY-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:49372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7FyB-0006PW-B9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.60.161]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LeiJ8-1dOmvl0sj0-00qPt9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:19:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:49:09 -0400") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9mZWh4GmlB3jIN99P7JU/YUAp7T2qEym4WuVMfQXjgQVEh0prX7 /oj5+RkVSbOzQwrBlU7L4ORki25WzOUEcQA136TqG0+wgxYJFHtK9DP2rSVyMRmJBUl3nBJ HMGJz+Rb4BwtiYxaDcd/7zWIiAmElL4mAMfPNsJ70PcixOxRyq67oEfZsqJLoF7rI875bOj +CRMEofz91kGeGiyq0BCA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fYpQaBIXbsk=:QhBiC/0ofM19C2C/05mh3E lE2NaiW/FxcD6Gr0pALPntfrDuXoyxNEBUuWUq0EmG3j2ZYKlNNAwIQZvbQJZxM5U/V1h7utR BiN1d6S0VXJn/23CpV0utL48Y3zS8b+pbnFSX/D/oqNYBuP5++L2cLJT5tQMUoF9qHFymdYSA t4XhDSobDlsOWBLq5Bi2/fs884Wsicx8Ks1p214S2DoEUdYq/TnBEMzcCMqnJOYhRbuZZVvoC /uBu0v7XqGI8BuCGP5RzJRxR9Uq5+F1F67imdalaes6Xu39Jdldbgb8Ni/VzMV1hJJLlgyiGT mbHe+R2goCQaoCAR3r5YuaEbq45HkFNYfHyTxfD7Xbt5cQwmiP/0cq1rJrkIT/UIF0vqNvhli qdjkGhga5y82eq36j5IRVMGaWOudGid0UApRfCtApH1YK9o0P0k4/wG+alIAwc+20Y8XIQs9R B0NY9bto11ZSAEFsigfbPquLL4NJG9EP0PyI7cAFFeRp/bMk7vHcWy3yz3U7wlqqGgQDwKynG WyUhppfQfog7lNd3OPgrePttkiKHTFx9Sv/xEroQzxbRKiPORQDvXLrDGSJ3jhivnBv4L91lP ZCIxTROr5Aq5l6S3nKwwnllosPPEXJ9fwRXj0M8sPPpfCnLSZZ1PA9iF3GkJHAaKqAy33Pteg WaIW7jwc2oeKVF7SfUi5YLWW2/xwpKOyGZwEflyOa3PQH8y+LBdR2oiokfGh1vpTdzgDBOnyK m9saZU1J1nbz4b0NPyJWZYwoQHi1v4qvCJ6O+KTD2ZlLWq+1WnclwoFnZURaclhJngf8jFFo X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219738 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: Hi Richard, > Every time I see "Tramp", what enters into my mind is "Trump". > I may not be the only one who reacts this way. > Might we want to change its name? Being the Tramp maintainer, I'm opposed to this. I do not want to let whomever dictate what we do, being the POTUS or not. And as John said, there are many external uses of the tramp-* namespace. As a practical matter, I ignore every message silently, which uses the "joke" to name Tramp Trump. > Does the name "Tramp" have a particular meaning? =E2=80=9CTransparent Remote (file) Access, Multiple Protocol=E2=80=9D. Best regards, Michael.