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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: VanL <van@scratch.space>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 00:26:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9qxq9ch.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8snub72p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>


On 2019-12-03, at 01:20, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

>> OK.  Does that mean that you only recommend "free" books to anyone?
>
> Not exactly, no, but when there are Free books available, I'll usually
> refrain from mentioning others in the same area.

I see.  The problem in this particular case is that no free books are
available in the same area (in fact, the only book available as of now
is Glickstein's "Writing GNU Emacs Extensions", which I think is not
very up-to-date - and I don't believe it is free, either).

>>> E.g. I could accept a license which states that any derivative work
>>> (translation or otherwise) needs to use a different title and/or clearly
>>> say not only that it's a derivative of your work but also that it is not
>>> your work.  Or something along these lines.
>> That sounds fairly reasonable to me, I guess.  Does GFDL work this way?
>
> I don't think so, but I'm not sure.  Maybe the invariant section can be
> used for that.
>
> I do vaguely remember some software using a license along those lines
> which said that any derivative had to use another name (TeX, maybe?).

Yes, TeX does such a thing.

> In some cases you can probably get similar results with a trademark,
> which seems to match the underlying intention of being able to protect
> your reputation.
>
>> I'm wondering whether there is some middle ground between CC-ND and GFDL
>> here.  For instance, one of the ideas I have would be to release a book
>> under a strict license, disallowing even copying verbatim, then under
>> CC-ND-something after, say, 3-5 years, and then GFDL after another 3-5
>> years.  This looks pretty fair to me.
>
> Along the lines of the Ghostscript system which used to release 1-year
> old versions under the GPL while keeping the bleeding edge
> proprietary, IIRC.

Yes, this is close.

Best,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl



  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-03 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29  9:05 Some ideas with Emacs Anonymous
2019-11-29 11:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-11-29 11:44   ` =?gb18030?B?QW5vbnltb3Vz?=
2019-11-30  5:54     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-30  5:51   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  5:57   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01 10:56     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 11:08       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 13:40         ` VanL
2019-12-01 14:07           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02  4:52             ` VanL
2019-12-02  6:12               ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  5:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 15:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:21                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 17:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:59                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 19:51                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 19:32                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 19:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 23:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  3:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 18:29                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  8:39                     ` VanL
2019-12-03 23:12                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-06  6:51                       ` VanL
2019-12-06 20:13                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 23:58                           ` VanL
2019-12-02  5:41           ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-02 12:53             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 18:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 20:57                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 22:13                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 22:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 23:04                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  0:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 23:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2019-12-03  8:37                           ` VanL
2019-12-03 10:14                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 11:14                               ` VanL
2019-12-05  4:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-05  7:30                                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-06  4:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  2:21                                     ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-08  5:06                                     ` Librepay Richard Stallman
2019-12-08 12:10                                       ` Librepay VanL
2019-12-03  5:03                         ` Some ideas with Emacs Richard Stallman
2019-12-03  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  0:37                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 19:37                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-03  4:25                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 11:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 11:59   ` Anonymous
2019-11-29 12:31   ` Emacs: the Editor for the Next Forty Years (was Re: Some ideas with Emacs) Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-29 13:22   ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 13:34     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 13:56       ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-11-29 14:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 14:26         ` Anonymous
2019-11-30  3:51         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01  3:14         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 18:58         ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:13           ` Adding examples in the doc (was: Some ideas with Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 19:30             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-29 20:03             ` Adding examples in the doc Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:32           ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:09             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:25                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  7:35                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-01 10:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01  6:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 21:42           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-11-30  0:12             ` João Távora
2019-12-01  6:48               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  0:44             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-30  7:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:51               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 18:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 19:44               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 20:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 21:35                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  3:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  4:17                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  4:48                         ` Yuan Fu
2019-12-02  4:53                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02 15:57                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 22:20                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:46             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  3:21           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:04         ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01  6:15           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:05     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 15:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:04     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-30 11:21   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  2:41     ` VanL
2019-12-01 18:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 18:36       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03  6:07 ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-06 18:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 19:18     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 20:14       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 21:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-06 21:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-07  2:13     ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-07  3:14       ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 20:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-11  4:21         ` VanL

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