From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: <87v9c4iqst.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87pn2dq3xv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ft39hnk1.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeit23ob.fsf@telefonica.net> <837dokhh98.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21177"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 19:36:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfZM-0005NJ-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:36:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfZL-00008A-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:36:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfYR-0007d7-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:38734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfYL-0000sT-RS; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:35:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ema2lyeGkMA+W2ncdHJiwcmIhcoatxgTgQAo2Wc+UoA=; b=0GLC4n3lxqo7SR5yonAZuQvkaC 1o9wn/B2ctGwyResYLFlYG9icVc5KVAtV7kq9mYdR9yamNigYFI7jkDCftkAUqr/KCdfPmASEK+/G WQn6Edq6mDYWsJDU8wXq+GQrFm/5n8c4Vj9R/jJ7FVh/bEUR03eQuwKdbZNR16B2thCRBHxhWbYOJ lQbetOA7KjKeGYpmLXxb9l9r9161Af+aURiezQf7cBP9xO0r6WFzRPSKBB9CyjE5QeGj4r04wEiAg BlEmcTw5tspGtIFfIagb0leevbsFWHQt58VEQjlg3neZwAf6YZlb/mRNTi0kvKUuLK6z40r7Y896J t46OS6hA==; Original-Received: from cpc142648-benw12-2-0-cust627.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.10.74.116]:57234 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfYJ-0000IA-JZ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:34:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <837dokhh98.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:46:27 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.129.138.110; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262874 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =C3=93scar Fuentes >> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 22:36:36 +0100 >>=20 >> > I cannot tell you what to do, but it would be nice to have binaries >> > that can be run on older Windows versions. So if the build supports >> > XP and older Windows, keeping the 32-bit build would be an advantage. >>=20 >> MSYS2 MinGW-w64 binaries do not support XP, they officially decided this >> some years ago and now some runtime dlls use APIs not present on XP. > > That's what I knew. So in that case, I see no reason for us to > produce official 32-bit binaries, as the chances for them being used > are likely nil. Then I shall disable the code that produces it for Emacs-28. I will leave the code and the "-x86_64-" names in place, I think, just in case we get any complaints from Windows 7/10 32-bit users. Then, that can go for Emacs-29, so binaries will become simply "emacs-29.1.zip" or "emacs-29.1-installer.exe". Assuming that this smaller DLL only distribution tests once I start producing snapshots, I will also remove the "-no-deps" zip from Emacs-28. At this point, I no longer need the independent copies of the dependencies, so they can go as well. That will reduce the total number of files for releases from 8 binary + 1 source (for the deps), to 2 binary + 1 source. Phil