From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 14:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: <87v9awnib6.fsf@yandex.com> References: <07D5E64D-DAD0-45B3-B272-627A73D7CBAE@gmail.com> <87mtwhctte.fsf@gnus.org> <459A0475-E3E7-4159-82DF-93809CCF1E24@gmail.com> <87eehng52n.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtwbye5b.fsf@gmail.com> <87czx7ycva.fsf@tcd.ie> <87eehmyalr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dneoewi.fsf@tcd.ie> <875z2yy6z7.fsf@gmail.com> <1c0598ce-c364-1711-8280-18e4ae091fb6@yandex.ru> <2fd8df6a-1993-fc1e-6e65-12938b0f57b3@gmx.at> <83y2ftdtkr.fsf@gnu.org> <5bde0ea3-8921-e17c-2390-243233ef2a34@gmx.at> <83sg61doxl.fsf@gnu.org> <9974c5a7-3276-9ec8-5e3b-4139c379f070@gmx.at> <87h7mg6z1q.fsf@yandex.com> <5bab990d-11f1-d20c-1bf3-be0cac5a723f@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1811"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:GCCYfyZeEzjKedkitKtXRn2iXQM= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 15:40:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAw6C-0000Mq-Hk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 15:40:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAw6B-0001H2-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:40:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAw4y-0000TF-FE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:46040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAw4v-0003Vr-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAw4o-0009Hw-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 15:39:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAGQAAAAeBAMAAAAodabAAAAAB3RJTUUH1wQdAAY04/L8hgAA AAlwSFlzAAAewQAAHsEBw2lUUwAAAARnQU1BAACxjwv8YQUAAAASUExURc7OzpwAAAAAAP////8A AGNj/2aqqTQAAAA8SURBVHjaYzA2NnEBAmdj01D8wNgYpM7F2JiBgYFREAgEGJiU8AMGBpA6QaCG UVtGbRm1ZdSWUVsGjS0Aq20lJnMawnkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264629 Archived-At: >>>>> martin rudalics writes: >> > IIUC no one uses --with-x-toolkit=no >> >> Not true :-( I use it to build emacs specifically for terminal >> use. > For what specific purpose? Running in an x-term, usually as part of tmux. My x-toolkit build loads a third faster than my gtk build and I really don't need pretty menus. > Here a --with-x-toolkit=no build with > debugging symbols mounts up to 23.5 MB, a Motif build to 24.4 MB. > A --without-x build has 18.5 MB. Even that nowadays does not > justify the extra maintenance burden. Ok, I'm sorry about that. I don't want to overburden the developers. I was replying to a statement that nobody built a "no x-toolkit" emacs. Best wishes,