From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:06:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9aqz9ob.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20210213141225.11309.86562@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210213141226.EEDFE20999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <47209379-76df-4c97-e5ff-b3b04da0db1d@yandex.ru> <87zh07of0e.fsf@gnus.org> <0605ed62-a785-d190-caf2-2232e1db3b0f@yandex.ru> <87mtw6d480.fsf@gnus.org> <87eehid3k2.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1liblzb.fsf@gnus.org> <87czwy1mu2.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 22:23:43 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCUIR-0005mq-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:23:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCUIQ-0007R2-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCU1l-00021s-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:06:30 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:58300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCU1i-0002HU-8D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:06:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FCmrH22SW/gemhCD9PhxjG5VHP+L5JzMOl7VDbADfA4=; b=JPoDx0+gSTSYGeK6z02ozWGHsY rVUAsauwarFpSb5pfeiK30kc9hxW48ZqVsvAaz0hggwrDP4CeDpprNqZ4wwUJbVAAaxAk6CjYgJzo y3qWtdJHWGqqoRYvC1KXEXhe9qezzqZeGlOcGHRYu/4s2+8XTiNveBphrGsVyuyxiF8E=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCU1V-0004TJ-Uw; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:06:22 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJFBMVEVHpvk4l+Rfpemd ye/A2e8okKMYhpVVpLYic+cIaqodbqH////a1t9FAAAAAWJLR0QLH9fEwAAAAAd0SU1FB+UCERUE NTAKI7cAAAGRSURBVDjLzdMxT4NAFABgoA6OoLXp2BoSa6dGmtg4tQcDbibkYNUYzlVT26YjlOF1 NdrmsXZo4FdKRThqr7tvOfK+e8dxx5OkfxaaphaPSr/1M8qaRqnLWAmWMZS1C0rZbxSgEH3YyFOU 7ris6JtSo8xT6vP3Wb0cJv5sNn3hUCMkB/9PxUnbdBmPJw4yEYIctW3MIk73QG5CaHVwbcwRVz/w mEMTAAzAT5IU8MDBAnzP8vtwClDPlrrFEtQCQtMgX/cC0DtGfXx9CAEBI7QSDsVXQD/b1RWW4JcQ DQgsRQDkGESjKpRHBaDbR8CwATg8cliYVXgooAmL/kAMYbZfIQS23uSgcoDRwl4KgQR2PEnXyZbN XO+mgOxCyGKA3WQTOzvocQhG0TV2ccMcNqZnFQgH+hLvcOM6zHlVKhB1DMRx7OygxUGGOowQP1zH 9fzaHmQXOMet60yf1VqvCiS4Slae603PJaUK2Y+4jOmMeW816bKntHiFBqDuGvCwTaXD4K17MFs4 PwdNVJamqSaq+ganJPTi6yOE/AAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMi0xN1QyMTowNDo1 MyswMDowMFlEnl4AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDItMTdUMjE6MDQ6NTMrMDA6MDAo GSbiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Orbital's _The Saint_: "The Sinner" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:03:39 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265083 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > As I said, I think it will work whenever the code has been fully > macro-expanded, which happens not just for byte-compilation but also for > `eval-buffer`, or when loading a `.el` file. We should arguably do it > at most other occasions (e.g. `C-M-x`), but someone will have to write > the corresponding patches. We can fix this in Emacs 28, of course -- but my point was that this doesn't work (in general) in earlier Emacs versions. (Which was the point of the compat macro.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no