From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:40:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87v98ykn6c.fsf@posteo.net> References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58a100426a22e@heytings.org> <877dleb2px.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58a3f78988f11@heytings.org> <87ft025b42.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58ab0222dab44@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 07 19:57:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCQj-0006CM-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 19:57:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55394 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCQi-0006zC-GU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCB1-0002yx-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:38265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUCAp-0007xo-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 167E3240101 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:41:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1617817261; bh=MHAYyyj+4Jw04UpAle5qSa79T9wYNs0/DZZIF72LNRg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=RtPfYsA8VhHDbGaS5Ukeqft/xrE6rla/8gF/dCX/LMnblUEBSLhd5caC0QHWCPKiJ T82cQFyeDbrkZ9pJMlS3gy789AxNm/CbaJflf79FKAB37PFk1YRhOlCFE1qtSiaSEs U7kxwL58H/T79F1Bt3zoK+TE1wdSgA21Vk8JvSUlNQPsPDt4WxiLo7Q7P5Sf7Uwcr7 +kHTWDznZNnjx6qogixbVGK8iIknDoXdhDc++gdVv3+XT0ABptccqD34jtWZ+t0P5L AZ8S4rvx6i/0740kH3ne+Ey9p9JxQTt9T/dfyQzxioqFyuk1RmLjEto0DgcPFjT7i8 lsT9KATh6HhTA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4FFsBN3YrFz9rxK; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:41:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3ec7e2e58ab0222dab44@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Wed, 07 Apr 2021 16:49:30 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267549 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: >>> 1. It seems to me that the UI you have in mind is closer to >>> 'transient' than to 'completing-read'. >> >> Perhaps, but my understanding of transient is that it tries to be a >> better C-u. > > By 'transient', I meant the ELPA transient package. My understanding > is that it makes it possible to navigate through a tree, with a visual > feedback in a popup buffer. But transient popups are static, right? You (usually) wouldn't compute them on the fly. I get what you mean from the UI perspective, I don't think that transient would be a good basis for something like selecting-read. -- Philip K.