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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278250 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > So perhaps we should just keep the current behaviour (or have a user > option to change it). A more ticklish question is what we should do with out string primitives (if anything). For instance: (string-limit "Hello, =F0=9F=91=A8=F0=9F=8F=BD=E2=80=8D=E2=9D=A4=EF=B8=8F= =E2=80=8D=F0=9F=92=8B=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=91=A8=F0=9F=8F=BE" 8) =3D> "Hello, =F0=9F=91=A8" and (truncate-string-to-width "=F0=9F=91=A8=F0=9F=8F=BD=E2=80=8D=E2=9D=A4=EF=B8= =8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=92=8B=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=91=A8=F0=9F=8F=BE" 2 nil t) =3D> "=F0=9F=91=A8" which is... uhm... In a way, this grapheme cluster thing is slightly like it was during the shift to utf-8, when not all string primitives worked on characters, but bytes instead. Less dramatic, of course, but. I think we'll be seeing many amusing display glitches in this area. =F0=9F= =A5=B2 --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no