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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278766 Archived-At: John Yates writes: > Can you point to other situations, familiar to Emacs users, where a similar > formulation of whitespace occurs? Contrast that with the nearly countless > context in which whitespace is a lexical pattern. All characters usually count when dealing with strings. > And in Emacs especially, when would I grep for the source of a binding > after having it displayed by Emacs. My immediate response would be > "C-h k". Which may say "C-c a runs the command (lambda nil", which doesn't tell you where it's defined. > Finally, I will point out that you are retracting current keydef > functionality. I'm not sure what you mean here. The entire point here is to move away from five different key definition syntaxes to one syntax. So of course I'm "retracting" functionality. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no