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Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:04:53 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode502.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3665f557c39d12d94b4d9fa017c1cf3c; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87y243pouk.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:39:15 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic316-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283555 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > And basic things like (un)subscribing to a bug, subcomponents (with > subscriptions), Don't we already have that? (Where you give debbugs an incantation along the lines of "Package: emacs,component-here", and it will DTRT.) It's just that not many people make use of it. > not having to CC every participant which is not already on the CC list > of the mail you are responding to, etc. I never found that to be a problem with debbugs. I think you only have to CC the bug address. > Extra points if the new system does not require to read a manual for > closing, reopening or categorizing bugs. I haven't seen such a system to date, and that includes SourceHut. > For now let's put aside cross-references between commits, bugs, patch > submissions and C.I. runs as something too modern to bear. FWIW, My experience is that stuff always gets in the way. At my shop we used to have a cron job that searched through VCS log messages looking for the text "resolves: ", closing the corresponding tickets on Trac. Eventually, we realized that you cannot rely on a commit to always solve an issue, and that it is usually better to wait for whoever discovered the bug to verify that it was fixed before calling it "resolved". Also, I don't understand how it makes sense for CI to run on a bug report. > It is already possible on debbugs.gnu.org, for some sufficiently broad > definition of "possible". It's not possible on debbugs.gnu.org, which doesn't let you submit reports from a web browser. > Famous last words. No. If you can submit comments, you can send e-mail, which means adding an attachment to the email should be a fairly trivial task.