From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A more radical cleanup for make bootstrap? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 18:46:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87v8pif0yj.fsf@gmx.de> References: <83bkraydzu.fsf@gnu.org> <2b1180d2e522e2571f09@heytings.org> <87pmfqlao9.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qs6xpbu.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn9yjm53.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfkmw8rl.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7vajjjr.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24783"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 20 23:42:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oal0Z-0006Gr-Ie for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 23:42:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56210 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oal0Y-0007fK-HV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 17:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oagOS-00084y-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 12:46:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:53655) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oagOK-0004Lo-QP; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 12:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1663692390; bh=7JJqyH1lUMvNgF95zTFLGDhIFRN6k6JzzihADMMVhq4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=hGfI/Hok+vwWHIHK5vXrTvOiflTynAgtNHW1X6hX6CFBjYF0c3TszrjlcEucCKra3 46wHADcZ2uyDZ8MffgiyflGjnBWpV40zx0uPQAcflltYhk1BqP8df7UfwCzRyc+7CT rnslwikh92oXN7fZplf8mmIkenCieL/hl8iEJW7w= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.125.182]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3UV8-1obEM00dIA-000bFA; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 18:46:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o7vajjjr.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Tue, 20 Sep 2022 20:51:20 +0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QQfttqV6FCoXKVjO/dCiH5WRwSmewI/H9e6etXjO0NhIXOFdpg2 V6ctE565JLdAwj0/rpFHU7PfJwWFqH7iAqefv3tin8NnIGWpkUPUKqH05cnA4xoaceUKfws 3c47Dh7KsLrZQH7+4X5G9wOrMzkdkEUmv3SYzELVoiofEl6eYa6yTKPwXLJsEfMK4siWc+1 xGn1BpkE9STHRNO10WNuA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CwZqDgkb00U=:wWjuOAuylkDXx16MFknDF6 KdsqswmurCuMaARxXwTp1M0VJnuetKpKVwmvcGs0GR9FUMF0a/2xrbvt0Z9BvLynH6+AFiUT1 wIKA449NkRgfbjixpze9AG0JvYY2GUmG65dPCNbzgQgSbayWXKCAHDeYbGGp2fT609ZLRDeQE 5uOZaMuOazj/RF5tYdJf70qmc/VGJOuSP/3alk8udvPlnP54x+j373VP5w7AE4Fc7GMwaQUok T9x6K5guQvZELgh0tIJxeZQd29494nMDeTSfl/MCrBpJQZo412b6JeLFeUtto3V78RBsC8nF3 fJo1RUhAMbwa68ZYZJ4n9Vqr7q8l82Tv1ZUp5xGKLaPR3uSuwc9E9rl1JnoFWPAd+GeqkEfcS Aqj5UzP/wBnvZ6btJk+dlhKYBLSYVojTjZpkhsQt+44PP2IxTeCthWCLFi+tWvwRd3iTHxu/n 5FtAA5xSaj7rgibjkrsAtg2hZF23hGTZkKoDkyEEYAnKXt+OzXcrlYZuz+FMLy9q7jlHL7mFo g/p3yVqLYW0dLSKVnTgasCko7ty8WYzayyTZ0TMCDYCQeuyPNtStCmASP284k9VmowNnfRVfP Bgs40H402tctw4f2nf7eMlrrG9RWeRybeeGrZjVoJqDhX1B77TO59CpqaOldV9qVSH1KdPVJe EFUuB69udz0trbaJk+TqRO74ZTxc7XBtM8ckGfq5fy6BDPpBBvBIfsrPQt7LkCP5lZr0df9z7 6gOTxhelM92Aw0aeVxiVKFq2WohybZggI1MXqdvg+iEgna8JE3K8Ifswtj1WLwfCJSxe3Q8f Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295837 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: Hi, >> I usually have no problems identifying the offending *.elc files. > > Same, but when the error is a macroexpansion error in Tramp (or > something related to loaddefs.el), I almost universally fail. Deleting lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el* might help sometimes. Best regards, Michael.