From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuchen Pei Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package "luwak" Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:54:38 +1100 Message-ID: <87v8mifvcx.fsf@ypei.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5569"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 11 04:55:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4DQq-0001Gr-Iq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:55:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4DQT-0004KP-1j; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4DQR-0004KB-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:51 -0500 Original-Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.19]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4DQO-0002Ji-Uv; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:51 -0500 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999C83200488; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ypei.org; h=cc :cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1670730885; x=1670817285; bh=xbxisOWPf3 NKVmHtQ1re6jIgDXXFLsKWSmDc/tIBFe8=; b=iY9uMas5K8zzm2aMxKAMoQguuK 0cCDz/gpvaEqQ3hbeXOanwud9PFrm/jzoofVLEkZ6aq2tZ+GqwjfHfZD9Ar0aq6D k2+m0U8myntU3e0hItcwqfKtLS/sqW3Mwhym/ou3H+F9Xvgx7OksKq4PH1GEYbV/ R7f62wWgGACKfF/+XZmFg9CiGF7DR9kt+EOvyUEhPucvnkdWbNKC2CRk5BUzhDRU kgIfHx61T0HESReD9d0YmYalXGaJhP5nV4U4Sd6CZVPPSmJ36JYF7EG0UZIBVpxL 2AjA69gqnp9iw2ROKTxDQtedozH12ognmkPnXDKCgqkh+71iC7vXqYziPamw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:feedback-id :feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; t=1670730885; x=1670817285; bh=xbxisOWPf3NKVmHtQ1re6jIgDXXF LsKWSmDc/tIBFe8=; b=RObnS7kDYGMeeHFc8wS8mYWy51uQDq0PN+1GwsLfHgbB n4/wcCGBHJIFuc/bDcttGLUbcqNupEw4Q2FrGc1Og+Sol1YF+bjbh60KcoqYkYcZ 9uh1EbpG/mta4thx51/k1Fl/+VJq71jSFvplvU8g5DGfixkvUerkbd6jZCl7/42e 7yHcpB6s/iZ0rzfjZuHO224YnCeidcK2noj0ahx2JOLBbeoHqsCENFcRtC7AyLa0 52jb8mZnQAT4LnsRFi1Yg7+NKqV7DeBnOVqjZTVWOdGhhWk/eIZGJt2sKcxwizsW mMarpApRoh/rgYeHY9BxJhafnnlaCic8u//6gbdbmA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdehgdeiiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvvefufhffjgfkfgggtgesthdtre dttdertdenucfhrhhomhepjghutghhvghnucfrvghiuceoihguseihphgvihdrohhrgheq necuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleevgffgteeuieejffevhfduvdeikeetieejjedtfeelvd ethedvueduvdegtdevnecuffhomhgrihhnpegvlhdrihhtpdhfshhfrdhorhhgpdihphgv ihdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhroh hmpehiugeshihpvghirdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i51b146f9:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:54:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:51:03 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.19; envelope-from=id@ypei.org; helo=wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301138 Archived-At: On Wed 2022-11-30 18:51:03 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > By contrast, the name "luwak" is unhelpful. Wikipedia says "luwak" is > a species of civet; civets are not cats, but fairly close to cats. If > you know this, it might help you remember "luwak" when you think of > "lynx". But that relationship is remote and strained. And it won't > help people who might find luwak useful find out about it. The naming is explained in the README / package description: > lynx dump -> feline excretion -> Kopi Luwak Judging from your talk at EmacsConf, I guess you would still prefer a different name because this would still fall under word play. > > Let's change the package name now to something that will help users > find out about it and use it. > > My suggestion for the name is `lynx'. That name fits it, since it is > an interface to lynx. And anyone who knows about `lynx' will guess > what it does. The development of this package is not affiliated with that of lynx in any way, though it is a lynx client, so I think calling it lynx can create confusion. > Does anyone have a better name to suggest? Common naming for this sort of clients are `lynx-mode` or `lynx.el`. It is less interesting though but I can live with that. OTOH people can search for "web browser" in the `list-packages` interface, and it will hit descriptions. 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