From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 12:15:12 +0800 Message-ID: <87v8cyv60f.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87ledwx7sh.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpfybhf.fsf@yahoo.com> <873503y66i.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24390"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 29 06:16:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaq9W-00067l-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 06:16:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaq8p-0000z0-B9; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 00:15:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaq8i-0000y0-H9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 00:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic308-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.33]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaq8b-0006YM-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 00:15:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1693282527; bh=wreRNUY+VycObk4IIV5OAJo7ytooepu1mD66+qrrves=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=F7FA9EqIxGzcGz5W5vrMuMJixGSwWgTsQTz8PviqX0Rh3OCTbwnH92Ff9YnQmo7E3qpmWDfRNbruBRKlqapAIfqpPZGFQ+bBkp3oeymYGujfhIPT/jXSplzImWhvhQ7rohfTYxyYwL8X2IEFrwkyr9boJfiu6C6T0IatpZGP3o/lPX7hRjQjLXzlaTgEVzBqdTNMu2k8MdqCSYCOQa4bPthl6JhywGjjstkhB1dfdrch1fRWmUcxLRo/cYTjWs781dQXCAKCTuKzcroc+fHQ+o3Uve2fv9hm/NFARCfrHday0WPZ19nguWPsdF9niEK7rgyzPTdGRANT0vlbNHeDkw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1693282527; bh=INGp+CnGP8rIsUTLzmV4MtJFjpePcq3oCZigiDHUnLF=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=mbDzq0iOftHul705WRluME9mYm6+3C3V5Lt+0tw1KvRshwSXHyqZZsR9WOzRPUvhkcqsbufHdPSkcgPLgz/1du4Dvv2+/uNadfg9JZProhOj8WmVoK5lFZ1PlisPK8pQnDgVJqGKfeoykoTfmCaQj0LQtxaoZN3Z2FyqpF+PH9CfeoJAyTdfqxbr2XwNGcJqhMotXt2zzjxRmHjTz93EoDfhqIp2Tm1hYSrKw1jKz6DA+vjucaeVTO6eTTvXVaHSV1wVxh7tt+lEYRjnWN399jFta0RfhnPCm+2M0q4QoKw3r5vINEXNUsoiafQHRqUrEDIHaQx9dbYRJJ/B/KRG4w== X-YMail-OSG: Wno4GsIVM1n_nxYdQcuESsccAO8RwO3GkWmgo1v1tFatZJQRVGZ_y8eFoH1W5Pd MWE.DTgO1lo695_enl33PM.oGhI4PDhGKP.9_svJpV3hiedZi0xQzcJzWQUrU1GgljqX5Yzdobqa d5uWpUTkPm81wPH5_R1RLxQMa4c0uzsvEndJxUSetdudfvx58DI.RwMgRhCbn8Sj05U2yqCaHpe4 QUNiiukKwA205BEGWMHdVoMEeK9Y6Mk5LlMKYrWFcYrM0rlWOG4qeJ2xHnt2XwenC390u6BqVyOj yfzJ9Qjs_ed.PITyjBlKKvlVq15fOac.Gzi.ejz4n66dRUmIflK2FT3Kd46mNIGtYOJFilAk.e1K ciCVYX1cNd46rNT1L9eHNXPEmIbzAi9O_RqmHGTbyeJmF3JQgIsg4zb394d0E0nvtre6Ec.8Bzmm ZF10uNRr1YIkSL99nLHLpZ44v6onZo_E5l93WUkjITa6fzaLBmZeFB3miuM6imDicQ1GR8XHGMOF 4IKAMwCA_vOdLLGgmfKV_PwlkLuThLAbewnjiosHxbmm306V0uXYiTNpcgJj_ciPvcZBKAipHwbT EtiSpzSllMXGsUzaMfF2GDEXsiaw.OIAaVkc60CnHoaHnwQOdPXL98W0.pUAYBvcCN4nj4n9D5fu fzYrFLM_9zxU8Hw8PQ2KEmK0EQK2szuwzzsdNPnxCUjs2TYRBQcKmLRRAqeCoHkoW0C8SBsaRhJY PbvLbQGN3Mcs1dmlMhfigKLogEUYKtE0TAhUqMDrE.5OszjN2Y.eabhHctTzAvstiVjqQwm2a1qX YrYJru1v5ube_d.5VYyh1YhvKtxJVaz5KUtLgNfhqL X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: f97cad6f-b83e-4f41-92af-7a8f70ff6d00 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 04:15:27 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-69654d8bd-52vxq (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a566e72e6853476a2e482e87a1f16149; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2023 04:06:50 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.33; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic308-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309477 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > The word "rewritten" does not imply any time frame. How is a time frame relevant? > Yes, you have expressed a year or more ago as well I should be forbidden > to talk about Emacs. :). Perhaps you shouldn't have answered; nobody has > forced you. Forbidden? Are you sure you're not placing words in my mouth? > I discuss gladly any technical aspects; actually that was my > hope; but I am certainly neither amused nor very interested to discuss > neither my character as you implied in another answer in this thread, > nor meaning of words in English language. I have expressed an idea in a > thread I found interesting, if it bothers you for any reason, tough > shit, don't answer. And I've been trying to articulate why such ideas invariably lead us down purposeless wild goose chases. I have never attempted to comment on your character. > You mean sorry but no sorry? > > Look; you are always indulging into Twitch/Reddit style trolling which > in my opinion has nothing to do with your English skills as Eli suggests > and warns about. My haunts include neither Twitch nor Reddit. Please watch your tone. > I am fully aware that your aggressive tone and way you speak to me are > because of your assumptions that I am an idiot, and you were not the > only one on this list. You are completely free to have any opinion about > me, I can't care less. Aggressive how? > Consider if it is good for Emacs and GNU projects to alienate people who > are willing to help, and if it is representative for the free world to > tell who should be allow to speak and what about. If any criticism of your ideas from valid technical perspectives is ``alienation'', I suggest you revisit the expectations you apply to others.