From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cond* Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 13:03:14 +0000 Message-ID: <87v881pch9.fsf@localhost> References: <87frzuae9n.fsf@posteo.net> <871qbatqc8.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmsz7lzn.fsf@posteo.net> <87edf1m7lq.fsf@localhost> <87cyui76l9.fsf@localhost> <871qauy1io.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18210"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 10 14:00:58 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rNYCX-0004VW-J1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:00:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNYBq-0007Be-02; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNYBl-0007Aj-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNYBj-0006qd-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62175240101 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:00:04 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1704891604; bh=5+QxNlxvk0ga0r+B3T2y67LcXWpjWYda8sefED2W5Wk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=MhKOFNA76ktVnXD8p+wLjnAYjY7ANJjxRrIDgPbNnskpKB9NIyqdMNYcqWghNn3Uq oTxm1dzm0jSisnrJbPlWoYAzvN488kw6zSIOqOe08xpFvMIjlZj0hPUdy2zKvVfSTC RBvpxskpaupn6yVwuaGkApGR2H2g3F0A+pWAvRR1XeE69l5TqB6Q6WhOdJC2VO4iQz zb4rp9mxtjyR72VAmY0D8gULUhIhdEWAJqmb1d4iUNp9g7M7/KQpil4Xg11NEj0Wu0 SvO6xWHB1RJZRldlLVZgsoqi2f5uWB2/zwGt04h4Extn305MbQjUIadVvNBdceulrr KlGvilD5WufgA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4T97Dz4vc5z6v0N; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:00:03 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314813 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > In particular, I believe that (PRED ...) in conf* is no > > less confusing than (pred ...) that pcase provides. > > A few people misunderstood it from the initial version of the > documentation, but that is no reason to think the feature itself > is confusing. > > The corresponding pcase `pred' feature is certainly not better -- it > is inside out -- and I don't see any other alternative to try. If you > would like to suggest one, I'd look at it with interest. My suggestion is simple - drop PRED and just leave "constrain". This will be more verbose, but also more clear. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at