From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 11:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87v80z3wkq.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <8734o9sdig.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmllqq66.fsf@posteo.net> <87plrdqnhc.fsf@posteo.net> <87le21qldj.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <878qy1at52.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ikwz5nll.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875xsz5g07.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20178"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:BLDV6Ptzk6S/Lmv4JIob6Yw3eZw= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 21 12:49:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVU8b-000518-Uz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 12:49:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVU8J-0002t6-EO; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 06:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVTB0-0001vd-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 05:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVTAx-00018G-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 05:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVTAv-00040D-DT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 11:48:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 06:49:37 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321865 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: > There are among us with extremely strong > mathematical background. Yes, I know, they are welcome to join us :) > Could you list for us a categorisation of the five main > areas your libraries focus on. Please use the standard > classification from > https://msc2020.org/MSC_2020.pdf > > Example List > > 05 Combinatorics > 51 Geometry > 60 Probability > 62 Statistics > > You could focus upon devising the library framework. > Although your mathematical background might not be strong, > your elisp should be. There is no pulling rank, everyone is one the same level. But I can show you my CV, sure. It is no secret and I have no problem with it. But yes, I already have a package at ELPA so I know some of the process anyway! This will be a consensus based project. Conflicts are not allowed, public dismissiveness of people efforts or backgrounds isn't either, the worst thing anyone is allowed to say is "we need to work more on this". Before we think about who does what, we have to agree what to do first in pretty good details. > I will focus on what can be included for a first release. > But I need approval from at least two others (e.g. Eli, > Richard, Stefan, Michael). Stefan and Michael <3 Can't you guys join? As long as there it is consensus based group and no conflicts allowed, no dismissive or elitist attitude, no web cop, no leadership group, none of that. That only attracts people who are into power and status, I know this from many, many places. So you just have to say we don't do that, and they don't come. I know they won't, this method works. Np: As soon as there is confusion, we stop and we figure it out. If this is a project for you, let's do it :) But let's see if someone more would like to join. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal