From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: Modularizing Org as GSoC project (was: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library)) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:40:33 +0000 Message-ID: <87v7zvay9a.fsf@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28520"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 20 19:40:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sgSqY-0007Eq-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:40:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sgSpV-0002lI-LX; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sgSpT-0002l1-Sl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:39:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sgSpR-0003Tw-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64106240103 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:39:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1724175569; bh=xkFKKpEz/lv7EDbvUWVUCWehXxnN0Z1GWNOLKd1DU+E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=sCJQwey1NIK0k9Rdu7Yvx7mp+3lP9iJ8L8ZWdJovQ3Vp4KKbYlp3u3V8iWf3OWyDR 4OpkDMu3iLhbTg4/RmTyrYnfqipD3ClI60ZP9fkJM3jkqrEh0lFKtMZgQ6iiVNcxae xho+2oXiLMHFoBm5QszYtThBBI0g5Z+C80iQ7akYCJ4bhMsa5PHBCKv48xUeoAUjzq sYE4NPN9MF6X7Lp7V/4SY0DQnVu96z0dA7055eY8LCV3Ju9m1YH/xE2lfCrHkTRIxk jvNeRMPAY6ZJnKBrEPhjHs5f6kZHc/k8VhsiogB+H4kNMvIUN+TmQwQltooHEeqWCR KC3uEWvCsJZGg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WpGtS5161z6tm8; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:39:28 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322973 gmane.emacs.orgmode:162991 Archived-At: arthur miller writes: >> ... >>Are there any specific todo items there that you view as more suitable >>for people with limited experience in Emacs codebase? > > I am not sure if this is something, I hope you don't mind me asking, but could a > work to modularize Org, be an appropriate subject? Yes, it can be. RMS previously asked us to do exactly this: https://orgmode.org/list/E1kIPh1-0001Lu-Rg@fencepost.gnu.org Also, see previous discussion on re-integrating org-capture into remember.el: https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/87bka7c2e0.fsf@localhost Similar for org-protocol.el. > For example turn displaying pretty text (bold, italics etc), pretty links, > tables, dates, and perhaps some other stuff into, from Org-mode, independent, > minor modes that could be used in other parts of Emacs and more independently of > Org mode. I think both Org-mode and Hyperbole, and perhaps some other libraries > (button.el, help-mode, info), could use some minor mode that works with > links. For us users, it would mean less cruft loaded into Emacs, if those big > players could share some code. > > I haven't done much research on this, just something I had in my head for a long > time. I would like to hear in more details what you have in mind. As is, your proposal appears to be for multiple projects. Or am I mistaken? For links in particular, Hyperbole already implements the described minor mode, or what am I missing? For tables, dates, and other markup, it is not clear what you want to achieve. Do you want Org markup to be displayed in non-Org buffers? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at