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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323777 Archived-At: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > Cloning won't be necessary, that's a thing I can say with certainty. > With what I have done today, reparenting a child will be allowed, but > not making a child a root or the other way 'round, for reasons of > laziness if you will. This is alright, for it is already more or less true of the popular GUI builds, and for reasons beyond our control.