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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326100 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Jeremy Bryant >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic >> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 23:03:42 +0000 >> >> I have created a prototype ELPA package, comments welcome? > > Are we providing packages that include only Info manuals, which > document stuff that is not specific to Emacs? Because I don't see how > it would be a good idea to have this as an ELPA package. > > But if we do accept such packages on ELPA, then I have 2 additional > similar suggestions: > > . Git manual in Info format > . Python 3 manual in Info format It would also make sense to make the Emacs manuals available for easy download, as distributions like Debian do not include these by default. Whether we distribute these by piggy-backing on package.el or have a separate installer that could be distributed on ELPA is a different matter, but it would be useful to have an index of already existing manuals that would be interesting regardless of their relation to Emacs. >> Current Package name, proposed for ELPA: c-intro-and-ref >> This matches the existing manual distribution. >> Perhaps a name such as: gnu-c-manual > > That'd be wrong, since this manual doesn't describe GNU C, it > describes the C language in general. (There's a separate GNU C > manual, btw.)