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From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Sean Devlin <spd@toadstyle.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:09:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7v1z5au.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2msgduyfb.fsf@gmail.com>

Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:

> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Speaking of running with a "normal" config: something about my
>>> configuration makes buffer_step (the balance_intervals call, in
>>> particular) take forever, to the point the mps build becomes unusable.
>>> The buffer in question, when I caught it, is an M-x shell buffer of size
>>> 8 MB, so I don't understand why it's taking so long.
>>>
>>> Still investigating, but skipping the buffer_step seems to help.
>>
>> balance_intervals means text properties. The only candidate I see in
>> comint/shell is ANSI escapes. That could be turned on/off with M-x
>> ansi-color-for-comint-mode-xy. Only as a workaround, and maybe to check
>> if it's that.
>>
>> What I do in buffer_step in idle time is basically one step of what the
>> old GC does in sweep_buffers.
>>
>> My expectation was that balancing a tree couldn't take long, and that
>> this is not called often enough to be a problem if were expensive. Both
>> wrong, as usual.
>>
>> Not calling balance_intervals is, BTW, not a catastrophic problem. if
>> one does anything leading to a graft_intervals_into_buffer, w</r hich is
>> called in a lot of places in editfns.c and insdel.c, that balances the
>> tree. And if not, the tree might become slower for lookup (redisplay),
>> but it still works.
>>
>> <rant> It's BTW well possible that I myself put that balancing into
>> sweep_buffers because of redisplay, I seem to remember that. The
>> interval tree has always been a source of fun. I hope, some day, some
>> kind soul will eradicate it like the GCPROs. </rant>

(I have a crazy idea for that, too.  Code, too.  But it does away with
the gap buffer, which the regexp code assumes, so we end up creating a
shadow single-string buffer whenever we call into the regexp code, which
is, er, slow.)

>> In any case, what's a solution?
>>
>> Right now I'm tending to put the balance_intervals in an if so that one
>> can turn it on/off with a Lisp variable. Default would be to not to balance,
>> because I think the problems with degenerated interval trees in
>> redisplay where rare, and I don't remember problems outside of
>> redisplay. But that was an awful long time ago, OTOH.

I did implement a Lisp variable as well (defaulting it to on because I'm
more conservative than you are :-) ).  I still think it's more likely
it's (also) a bug elsewhere: balancing a tree for an 8 MB buffer should
not take long.

I am currently not calling compact_buffer when the variable is off.
Maybe that's something to look into, too.

In my current session, keypresses (with idle time in between, because I
can't outtype Emacs) become noticeably laggy if I set the variable to t,
but not when it's nil.

Further investigation needed, I think.  Unfortunately, that's going to
require some instrumentation code and then I have to restart my Emacs
session...

Pip




  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-30 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:13       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:23         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:39         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  7:51           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  8:02             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  8:47               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  9:29                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  9:47                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:54                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:05                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:27                     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:53                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:32                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 14:59                         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:24                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:25                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:34                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:02                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 20:03                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:30                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 16:57                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:41                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:33                                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:37                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 19:55                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  7:34                                       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31  9:19                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 10:00                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:49                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:15                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:05                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:14                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:20                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:12                                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:31                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:37                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:39                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 10:09                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 13:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:29                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:08                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:14                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:19                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:31                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:40                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 14:55                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:13                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:16                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02  8:37                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  9:05                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:00                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 12:34                                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-02 13:08                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:56                                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:42                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:40                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:53                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:02                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:32                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:52                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:18                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:23                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:11             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:13               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:53           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 10:46         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:00           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:07           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:20           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  5:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  2:21   ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-29 19:44         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30  6:16           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:51             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:09               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-12-30 13:28                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:24         ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-30  6:17           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:23       ` Sean Devlin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-28  6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29  8:02       ` Helmut Eller

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