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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Documentation for custom-file - is not (load custom-file) needed?
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:27:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87u0qwc43f.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87is7dienm.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2004 06:42:53 +0200")

I wrote:
> It's too late to make any changes in custom-file (changing its type,
> etc.) since users might already rely on its current state.

But maybe it is safe to change the type of custom-file from defcustom
to defvar.  I am only concerned about backward compatibility.
What happens if some users already have customized `custom-file' in
`custom-set-variables' and it will be removed from this list?
Perhaps, nothing bad.  Moreover, the situation where `custom-file'
in `custom-set-variables' points to some file other than the file
where `custom-set-variables' is located, is invalid.  It will cause
duplication of `custom-set-variables' list when Emacs saves customized
variables next time.  So, not adding `custom-file' to the set of
variables in `custom-set-variables' is the right thing.  `custom-file'
should be purely an internal variable (which is achieved with the
previous patch).

However, there is one situation when users have to deal with the
`custom-file' variable.  When the user moves `custom-set-variables'
to a new location in another file, it's needed to tell Emacs about
this location, so the next invocation of `Custom-save' could write
customization to the new place.  To inform users about that, the next
3 lines could be added to the comments of `custom-set-variables':

 (custom-set-variables
   ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
   ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
   ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
   ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
+  ;; When you move it to another init file, to tell Emacs about
+  ;; its new location for the current Emacs session, type C-x C-e
+  ;; at the end of this line: (setq custom-file buffer-file-name)
+  ;; For further Emacs sessions just put in your init file
+  ;; (load "custom-file.el").  There is no need to set `custom-file'
+  ;; explicitly in your init files since Emacs can automatically set
+  ;; it to the file name where your customizations were loaded from.
   ...

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-08 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-04  1:53 Documentation for custom-file - is not (load custom-file) needed? Lennart Borgman
2004-12-04 23:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-05 21:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-06  0:24     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-06 14:10       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07  2:40         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-08  4:40           ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-06  2:56     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-07  4:23       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-05 15:50 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-12-05 17:07   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-05 17:33     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-05 22:07       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-06  0:46         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-06  1:21           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-06  4:02             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-06 13:04               ` Stefan
2004-12-06 18:34                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-06 18:54                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-06 21:53                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-07  2:34                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-07  9:39                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-07  3:27                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-07  2:56                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-08  4:40                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07  3:50                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-07  4:23               ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07  5:39                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-08  0:44                   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-08  4:35                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-08 17:52                       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-08  4:42                     ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-08 13:27                       ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2004-12-08 17:52                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-08 18:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 19:56                             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-08 20:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 22:16                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-08  4:40                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-09  2:20                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-09  2:24                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-09 22:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-10  5:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-10 15:51                           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-10 17:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-10 18:36                               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-10 20:40                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-11  1:00                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-11  3:38                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-11  3:56                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-11  4:11                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-13  3:49                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-13  9:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-13 15:55                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-13 19:51 Richard Stallman
2004-12-14  0:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-14 23:20   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-14  1:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-14 23:20   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-15  2:51     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-15 23:20       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-16  0:48         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-16  4:51           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-17  0:54           ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-17  5:41             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-17 13:20               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-20 10:56               ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-21  0:48                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-23  0:53                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-25 15:13                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-26  2:31                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-14  4:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-17 15:31 LENNART BORGMAN
2004-12-23 14:07 LENNART BORGMAN
2004-12-23 18:05 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-28  1:06   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-12-28  4:28     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-28 17:25       ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-23 18:34 ` Luc Teirlinck

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