From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (=?iso-8859-2?q?Janusz_S._Bie=F1?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: packaging (was: The MH-E repository) Date: 02 Jun 2005 07:31:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87u0khwchk.fsf_-_@mimuw.edu.pl> References: <25625.1117492799@olgas.newt.com> <1117523297.429c0d614d0e3@imp4-q.free.fr> <873bs3kvx9.fsf@marant.org> Reply-To: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117690819 13295 80.91.229.2 (2 Jun 2005 05:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-15?q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 02 07:40:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DdiQk-0003vj-Lz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 07:39:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DdiWB-0005ro-JZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DdiVK-0005aj-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:44:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DdiVD-0005Wr-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DdiVC-0005Sy-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.0.96.2] (helo=duch.mimuw.edu.pl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1DdiMt-0000un-9G; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:35:47 -0400 Original-Received: by duch.mimuw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1075) id C8123584B; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:33:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <873bs3kvx9.fsf@marant.org> Original-Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.95 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38033 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38033 On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 Richard Stallman wrote: > You are trying to facilitate updates in specific packages > at the expense of undermining the long-term development of Emacs. > If people do what you want, it will impede progress. Please elaborate. >=20 > Please stop interfering with Emacs development. > Please just stop! I hope J=E9r=F4me will not follow your suggestion. He is making enourmous although indirect contribution to Emacs development by providing Debian community with Emacs snapshot package. To be more precise, this is a script which fully automates the package creation: http://people.debian.org/~jerome/build-emacs-snapshot.sh As you may happen to remember, I used to be a pretester. I stopped testing Emacs not only because of general lack of time, but also because integrating CVS Emacs with Debian was too cumbersome. Now emacs-snapshot is a separate flavour which peacefully coexists with stable version, so it allows extensive testing without unnecessary risks. I am again on emacs-devel list and hope, thanks to J=E9r=F4me, to be able to do some testing again.=20 I don't think Emacs should grow infinitely and spliting it sooner or later into packages seems to me inevitable. MH-E stuff is an obvious candidate for a package. Best regards Janusz --=20 ,=20=20=20 dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW - Uniwersytet Warszawski (Katedra Lingwis= tyki Formalnej) Prof. Janusz S. Bien - Warsaw Uniwersity (Chair of Formal Linguistics) jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl, jsbien@uw.edu.pl, http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~jsbien/, ht= tp://www.klf.uw.edu.pl