From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows-XXXX and cpXXXX Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:45:32 -0500 Message-ID: <87u0c8gpb7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137174868 1914 80.91.229.2 (13 Jan 2006 17:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 13 18:54:23 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExT7w-0007qv-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:54:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExTA5-00034Y-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:56:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQDg-0005kg-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQDe-0005kC-FZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:47:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQDc-0005jT-LI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:47:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExQGb-000090-Dn; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:51:01 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.71.26.73]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060113144537.WOPW14963.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:45:37 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 67506D736A; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:45:32 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:52:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48998 Archived-At: >> Even for non-DOS users, (coding-system-p 'cp1252) returns >> nil or t depending on his locale. > Why would non-DOS users need cp1252? why cannot they use windows-1252, > which is the official IANA name of that encoding? > The fact that people get confused by what the Emacs manual says about > this (which I believe is what led us to this discussion) can be taken > care of by fixing the manual. There's no need to modify code for that. > In short, cp1252 is something we invented in codepage.el. So we might > as well retire those cpXXX symbols for good, on all platforms (except > DOS, which must use codepage.el). That is my suggestion: let's remove > cpXXX and cpXXXX aliases from code-pages.el, and let's start educating > users to use windows-XXXX instead. For what it's worth, I think it makes sense, although what would make even more sense is to get code-pages working in the DOS port. Stefan