From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:06 -0400 Message-ID: <87tztbcue9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <6sps3z32ap.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181776952 10688 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2007 23:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 14 01:22:30 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HycAV-0006eR-Vi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:22:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HycAV-0005YG-8i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HycAQ-0005XR-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HycAO-0005XA-LD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HycAO-0005X5-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:20 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HycAN-0004AD-0k; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:19 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FD4B4E5D8; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:22:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6sps3z32ap.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed\, 13 Jun 2007 18\:41\:34 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72821 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I'd be surprised if it's not the case. A feature freeze for Emacs-23 will >> probably not happen for a while. Several people will have to eat their >> shorts if Emacs-23 comes out before 2010. > > (Perhaps that was reverse psychology) > > Does anyone believe there is any technical reason why an Emacs 23 with > unicode and multi-tty merged in could not be released, say, within one > year? > > It seems technically feasible to me (coming from a position of > ignorance), and would presumably go some way to helping restore Emacs' > reputation and relevance. If we continue to develop Emacs 23 in a spirit similar to the Emacs 22 release cycle, a 2010 release is extremely optimistic. I, personally, would prefer a shorter release cycle for Emacs 23. One approach would be to limit the Emacs 23 changes to unicode, multi-tty, and xft, with a *very* limited set of other changes. In this scenario, a two year cycle is feasible. No matter which route we take, it would be nice to have some sense of direction for Emacs 23. Jay Belanger recently posted a message asking about the policy for trunk development; I, too, would like to know the answer to this.