From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: source repository Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:24:22 -0700 Message-ID: <87tzsjbkih.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <200707031442.28402.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <468A3997.2040500@f2s.com> <200707031514.17225.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87myycej8z.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183605879 28635 80.91.229.12 (5 Jul 2007 03:24:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 03:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@f2s.com, pogonyshev@gmx.net To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 05 05:24:36 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I6HxM-0000n3-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:24:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6HxL-0008Oj-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6HxH-0008NS-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:24:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6HxG-0008KC-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:24:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6HxG-0008K1-2R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:24:30 -0400 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.193.61]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I6HxD-0005jV-5J; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57954 ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I6Hx9-0008PA-HV; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:24:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed\, 04 Jul 2007 21\:30\:47 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74331 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Several years ago there was a suggestion to use Subversion in some > major way on Savannah. People (I don't recall who) looked at the > situation and reported that the Subversion developers did not support > us as we wished, so we did not promote it. > > It's possible I misremembered what they reported a few years ago. If > so, I apologize. Before today I did not know who Subversion > developers were. You and Jim are certainly free software supporters. > I don't know whether Subversion as a project supports free software > and GNU the way you personally have. Subversion supports free software no less than CVS does (both Jim and I have been on both teams), insofar as such things can be measured. So if that report from long ago remains the reason you don't use Subversion on Savannah, then it's time to reconsider. You now have credible sources telling you the report was wrong. Not that I'm pushing Subversion. If Emacs switched to Mercurial or GIT I'd be just as happy; CVS is getting in our way, for reasons others have explained at length already.