From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA-mode features and documenation Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:12:56 +0900 Message-ID: <87tzkcqr1j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <000d01c86c82$700dccc0$7051908d@us.oracle.com> <200802121430.m1CEUc6k013361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <002601c86d8a$a0454db0$405a908d@us.oracle.com> <87tzkdnkee.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ir0sonaa.fsf_-_@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <200802131623.m1DGNrls003614@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87odakwl2r.fsf@jurta.org> <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202951604 10255 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2008 01:13:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 02:13:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPSfX-0000AA-LK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:13:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPSf3-0001lf-Ly for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPSf0-0001la-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPSew-0001lM-RP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPSew-0001lJ-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:13:06 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPSes-0000eW-Rc; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-023.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.23] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JPSen-00031n-Ke; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:12:57 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 53EE52FF7; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:12:56 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:58:25 +0100") Original-Lines: 24 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89018 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Is it not reasonable to assume that most new users expects and wants the > behaviour that cua-selection-mode gives? I have no idea. I presume that many new-to-emacs users might be used to such a command set; on the other hand I presume many existing emacs users (upgrading to a new version) would not. We cater to both. > Can you explain what is lost if cua-selection-mode is used instead of > transient-mark-mode? I haven't used cua-selection-mode enough to have a good idea of the practical (user-visible) difference (e.g. if there are serious incompatibilities), but cua-selection-mode (1) rebinds a bunch of very basic commands, (2) adds a post-command hook. Those two things aren't to be taken lightly, I think. The second is particularly worrying. -Miles -- "Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder." -- Homer Simpson