From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:07:48 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87tzjkb10b.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <871w6ou4xb.fsf@jurta.org> <200803060358.m263wveh005067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204799955 4877 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 10:39:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:39:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 11:39:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXDVa-0006JY-WD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:39:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXDV2-0003Tc-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:38:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXDUq-0003St-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:38:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXDUo-0003R8-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:38:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXDUn-0003Qs-CN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:38:41 -0500 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXDUm-00038A-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:38:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JXDUg-0003pW-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:38:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200803060358.m263wveh005067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:58:57 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 1e897a521fdb5eac39b1f944f187ca57 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2364 [Mar 6 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91480 Archived-At: > > > > > - flyspell-mode on by default for text-mode > > > > > > > > I indeed have it on in text-mode (and programming modes as well, as > > > > a matter of fact), > > > > > > Same here. > > > > > > Another related point: flyspell-prog-mode is even more obscure than > > > flyspell. How do we make it's availability more obvious to programmers? > > > > Like all other features, to make them more available to users, we should > > add more commands to the main menu. Most newbies tend using this menu > > where they can discover hidden features. > > Flyspell is pretty well hidden in the Tools / Spell Checking menu. In some programs the menu item to turn on/off an analogy of flyspell is in the context menu invoked by mouse-3. > Where would flyspell-prog-mode go? Maybe in the major mode menu? We'd > have to add it by hand to all the relevant major modes. > Which is doable. But what if a user wants to turn on flyspell-prog-mode > by default for all programming languages? The only way to do that now is > to add a bunch of `add-hook's in .emacs > It would be nice to have a generic solution for all these (no idea what > that might be...) Maybe the global flyspell-prog-mode should have an user option with a list of modes where it is on? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/