From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:29:33 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87tzjf8lqq.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803070407.m27471TG016558@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfg4u7p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <200803090036.m290a4oW020277@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <8763vv654o.fsf@jurta.org> <002f01c88235$c50c14c0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205109738 6719 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 00:42:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 01:42:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYW6G-0004bQ-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:42:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYW5i-0007yE-QL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYW59-0007TT-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYW58-0007SG-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYW57-0007SA-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYW57-0008CY-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JYW4x-000Dqh-Mj; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:41:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <002f01c88235$c50c14c0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:34:42 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: ef6c50392af5ec65634338665e82f3c2 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2374 [Mar 9 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91967 Archived-At: >> Yes, it is powerful, but like suggested packages radically >> changes the default behavior that most Emacs users are accustomed to. > > Sorry, I can't follow. What is powerful? What suggested packages?... What's > the point/question? I was referring to the similarities between the *Completions* buffer and pull-down lists that allow completions, and just like Icicles is the superstructure over the *Completions* buffer, ido is the superstructure over the minibuffer, and iswitchb is the superstructure just over the C-x b minibuffer with buffer names. Though all they significantly change the underlying default user interface. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/