From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:11:55 -0400 Message-ID: <87tzjeimno.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsod2f2i.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87iqzw3hyd.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205165696 5513 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 16:14:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 17:15:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYkeL-0004bT-1v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:14:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkdm-0001fk-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkdi-0001fL-CB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkde-0001f6-V2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkde-0001f3-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYkde-0000n1-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 535B04E401; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:11:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87iqzw3hyd.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sun\, 09 Mar 2008 00\:38\:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92048 Archived-At: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: >> Because that's how the region behaves and that's how Emacs rectangles >> behave, so it's more consistent. > > Well, I've never had a use for them in practice - and one of the > features of CUA rectangles is that the cursor is INSIDE one of the > rectangle corners -- namely the corner which you expand by moving the > cursor. > > Visually, this is much more pleasing than having the cursor > sometimes inside, sometimes outside the rectangle. But it's inconsistent with how the Emacs cursor typically behaves, and it looks weird when you are using a bar cursor. (For instance, I have a customization in my .emacs file that turns the cursor into a bar whenever the mark is active: (add-hook 'deactivate-mark-hook '(lambda () (setq cursor-type t))) (add-hook 'activate-mark-hook '(lambda () (setq cursor-type 'bar))) With the bar cursor, cua rectangle selection doesn't do what is expected.)