From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:55:15 +0900 Message-ID: <87tzdnh6z0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <873al79akr.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <87tzdn7sar.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <87ej4r7mft.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218732962 21039 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2008 16:56:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Johannes Weiner , rms@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 14 18:56:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTg7x-0000wy-HT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:56:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41263 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTg70-0004dK-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTg6v-0004dF-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTg6u-0004d3-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60055 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTg6t-0004d0-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:36345) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTg6h-0001o2-4o; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96EA8002; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:55:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 047751A25C3; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:55:16 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under XEmacs 21.5.21 (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102461 Archived-At: Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > Non-free software users are indeed under the exclusive control of the > author, the author decides what they can do with the program. Nonsense. The user is not under the exclusive control of the author, nor any control whatsoever. The software is, of course, under substantial control of the rightsholder. The user, however, can always stop using the program at any time, with their freedom fully intact. If their wallet is a bit slimmer, please call it "tuition". But I digress: this thread is about freedom, not economics.