From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:34:35 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87tzdanllg.fsf@jurta.org> References: <20071012105022.6c8b174a@tweety> <874pgtfw1y.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <4713067D.2060504@swipnet.se> <87fy0cdvr6.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <471467FF.5070005@swipnet.se> <87vdxy2kwo.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219679709 12435 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2008 15:55:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Frank Schmitt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 25 17:56:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KXeQ5-0002ho-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:55:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXeP6-0005mj-IH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXeOJ-0005Sp-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXeOJ-0005SR-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXeOI-0005SM-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:54163) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KXeOI-0008Ua-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KXeOF-0000DK-Hr; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:53:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Frank Schmitt's message of "Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:06:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4896 [Aug 24 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102953 Archived-At: >>>> Please ignore this if it's already been hammered to death, but what about >>>> using C-Insert/Shift-Insert for the clipboard? >>> >>> That would make a lot of sense to me, >> >> Shift-Insert is kind of quasi standard to paste the *selection* on X11. >> This would make emacs behavior even more "non standard". I don't care >> much, just wanted to note that. > > I do care much. I use Shift-Insert to paste selection and Control+Insert > to set selection all the time. If the behavior of those keys was > changed, I'd be really p. off. Do you use Shift-Insert and Control-Insert because other programs provide the same keys for the same functionality (i.e. copy to the clipboard and paste from the clipboard)? In this case, it is more annoying when these keys don't work as expected in other programs based on CUA guidelines that specify Shift-Insert and Control-Insert to work with the clipboard. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/