From: Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
"Johan Myréen" <jem@iki.fi>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: line-move-visual
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:22:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tz1j1smo.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqhzokpd.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:25:02 +0900")
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes:
>> There are two problems: (1) the inconsistency you are pointing at
>> between C-n/C-p and C-a/C-e (Tassilo also mentioned this) and (2)
>> whether `line-move-visual' should default to nil.
>>
>> Solving (1) would be good, and the two issues are independant.
>
> Please read the previous discussions.
>
> The "C-n/C-p and C-a/C-e inconsistency" of the default settings is intentional.
>
> Having used the current defaults for a fairly long period, and of course
> "traditional" emacs for untold eons before that, I've come to the
> conclusion that Chong made the right choice.
>
> I get annoyed sometimes too by C-n/C-p's behavior -- but the traditional
> behavior annoyed me _more_ often. I think there is _no_ setting which
> will please all people, or even one person all the time, but the current
> compromise seems to be pretty decent.
>
> I know some people will feel different "annoyance tradeoffs" than me,
> but for those complaining about the change, I at least hope you've given
> yourself some time to get used to it -- way too often, people seem to
> fire off a flame about some change about 34 seconds after they've
> installed the new version implementing it!
I don't read any argument against an official poll, and this is just
what I'm asking for.
PS: I've been using this default for a while. Since I'm using a lot
of macros, I had to switch to (setq line-move-visual nil) because I
didn't to use M-x visual-line-mode to turn it off each time.
--
Bastien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-11 9:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-09 18:12 line-move-visual Johan Myréen
2009-07-10 4:26 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 4:43 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 5:48 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 6:14 ` line-move-visual Kenichi Handa
2009-07-10 6:58 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 8:13 ` line-move-visual Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-10 10:10 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 8:43 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 8:57 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 9:04 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 10:32 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 9:08 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 9:13 ` line-move-visual joakim
2009-07-10 9:22 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 16:22 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 17:20 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 17:40 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 9:52 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 11:35 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-10 13:38 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 18:01 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 18:16 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-11 19:34 ` line-move-visual Juri Linkov
2009-07-10 13:56 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 15:07 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 20:29 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 15:43 ` line-move-visual Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-10 15:56 ` line-move-visual Sean O'Rourke
2009-07-10 9:14 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2009-07-10 9:56 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 10:22 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 10:36 ` line-move-visual Ulrich Mueller
2009-07-10 10:56 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 11:07 ` line-move-visual Christian Faulhammer
2009-07-10 11:29 ` line-move-visual Ulrich Mueller
2009-07-10 18:15 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 20:40 ` line-move-visual Richard Stallman
2009-07-11 1:58 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-11 2:29 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 2:44 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-11 18:30 ` line-move-visual Richard Stallman
2009-07-10 6:12 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-10 21:19 ` line-move-visual Johan Myréen
2009-07-10 22:14 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-11 1:34 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 2:46 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-11 5:25 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 5:49 ` line-move-visual Kenichi Handa
2009-07-11 6:13 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 9:22 ` Bastien [this message]
2009-07-10 4:35 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 13:31 ` line-move-visual Chong Yidong
2009-07-11 6:42 ` line-move-visual Andrey Paramonov
2009-07-11 7:21 ` line-move-visual Teemu Likonen
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