From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relationship between 23.1.90 pretest and 23.2 pretest? Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <87tyvvx6df.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <87k4wux5ls.fsf@red-bean.com> <87skbialcq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vj178kg.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1260651157 7912 80.91.229.12 (12 Dec 2009 20:52:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 12 21:52:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NJYx2-0007UW-86 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:52:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35562 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJYx1-0003bj-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJYwv-0003ak-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJYwp-0003U4-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58081 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJYwp-0003U1-Iv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:15 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.206.141]:54195) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJYwp-0003AF-9F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:52:15 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37546 helo=kfogel-work ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NJYwn-0005ej-3L; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:52:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:42:41 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118573 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> A good way to do this would be to just jump to step 3. Then, whichever >> time the Savannah admins get around to making the CVS repository >> read-only, will be the time everyone needs to migrate. Less >> co-ordination involved > > OK, let's do that. Agreed! Shall I file an SR now, asking the admins to make the CVS repository read-only? I don't see one already -- but I don't want to step on anyone's toes if one of you have already put in the request. I just went through http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrForEmacsDevs to test the recipe from absolute scratch. Even over a wireless modem, "bzr branch sftp://kfogel@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk" took only 52 minutes. For a one-time transition, that's quite acceptable IMHO. I fixed a few out-of-date things in the page. I think we're good to go now. Once the admins have made the CVS repository read-only, we can ask Andreas for one final conversion. If there are any bugs remaining in the workflow, we'll fix them in production. Yidong is totally right that actually switching over will be what forces us to get Loggerhead working, get commit-diff emails, bzr+ssh, etc :-). -Karl "Not waiting at the Miami airport"